6 O'FIVERS IT'S JULY 2ND 2026. HAVE A SAFE JULY 4TH WEEKEND

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When I pull it out halfway, it works.

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Ah. The problem is the unit. We're going to do a test.

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Of the emergency broadcast system.

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No, of the emergency Elizabeth system.

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Oh dear.

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Which is the EES. I just mave it up. No, I'm going to have you come in here during a break and plug those headphones into this, which I've just tried. Oh, here we go.

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Did I put this headphone in? Or do I need a uh adapter?

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You need a thingy. Do you have a thingy?

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I got a thingy.

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Bring your thingy over here and stick it in. Are you?

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I'm going to stick my thingy in your thingy and then see if my thingy works. Where do I go?

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Okay, right in one of those. Let's just back off the volume. See, we have a headphone amp problem here.

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I hear nothing.

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What do you mean, nothing? I'm not. See, you should. Because I've tried here, try the next one. Should I play some music? Some like elevator music. Okay. Does that work both sides? That is so weird. I'm starting to think now it may be those. Okay. Uh-oh. I can't hear me! Perfect. No static. Clear as a bell. Wouldn't lie to you. We have headphone problems. Stand by.

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Okay, let me hear this one and talk a lot.

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Okay. Hi. Uh my name is Nick. I I work here with her. Maybe. Could be. Yeah, okay. How about that? How's that? Nothing. See? I think you have a jack problem. I mean, you know.

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Who doesn't?

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Oh, oh, you're all unplugging me and making me all whack-a-doodle. Don't don't move. Don't move. Don't move. How did this happen? Because you got on the other side. Oh, she almost I I didn't do nothing. I'm standing in the same spot. Get over on your side. You're a danger. How did that happen? You're a danger.

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How did you wrap that around me?

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Really? You were unplugging and plugging. I was standing in one spot. Oh, it it works with the jack. Ah. What does that mean? That means you do have a bad jack on your headphones.

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Now I gotta buy another set of these.

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You might be able to fix them. Aren't they warranted?

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No, these are iPhone. You know the old iPhone that used to have the plug?

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Yeah, of course. So, um My iPad still has it.

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Okay, so remember we had the hearing aid company on it.

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Everybody is so interested in everything.

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You know the hearing aid company? Yes. Well, they made this special um Yeah, it's like in your monitors.

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It fits your ear.

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Exactly. Molds for my ear because they can't you get a new set of headphones and put that on? Yeah, I'm gonna have to buy like it's they're very hard to get these headphones.

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They still have them. eBay.

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Yeah, I know. That's where I got these.

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There you go.

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Because I had to replace the last ones. I know.

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I went through two pairs of headphones, my favorite headphones ever, and they don't make them anymore. So I'm don't stress me out. I'm just telling you. After a week, you get a little bit more.

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These are a little crotchety. It's better with the quarter inch.

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Crotchety.

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Yeah. That's right. Oh yes. Of course you feel crotchety in the morning.

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That's that's a that's a term right out of Wisconsin. Hey, good morning, you crotchety old Exactly.

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Exactly. Hey. Hey, it's um 611 on the Liz Callaway show with Nick Summer.

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Just three.

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Uh it is Thursday, July 2nd. Wait, are you ready?

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Are you ready? I am ready. Okay, it's just for you. I made it for you because I love your ready.

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Welcome to your Trans Friday. Yeah, it's Thursday, but it's almost Friday. But different!

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Isn't that how this works? This is the home of the Liz Calibus show with Nick Summers.

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That is funny.

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You like it?

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I do.

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We're not really taking a break now, but it just jumped to the next event. So let's take a break. What? Really? No.

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Seriously?

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Fine.

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I didn't even do anything yet. I've already got break. How is that? Who do you think I have? Like a regular worker?

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How is that different from any other people?

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I don't take a break right as soon as I get in.

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Well, yeah, that's what people around here do. Hey, how you doing? Log in, blah, blah, blah. And then go stand in the kitchen for four hours. Oh, really? Did you see that? Did you ever brought that over there? I see it all the time. Yeah.

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I gotcha. So, um, we got a big event coming up on July 24th. Did you cut any of that script yet? Not all. So I'm gonna do it over the weekend and then we'll work on it next week. Yeah. Because how it has to run like 14 days prior to the event. But we're gonna be doing our uh sneaker drive for my birthday at Conway Ford. Isn't that amazing? Uh-huh. I think so. Uh-huh. Yeah. Um, what else here? Um we're trying to uh I'll give you some insight baseball. We're trying to get uh business with uh Scrubby's car wash.

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Don't tell anybody. Not saying a word. Nobody's listening. Trust me. Not after that last eight minutes.

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I think Scrubby's car wash would be good for us.

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Shh, we're not supposed to talk about it.

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Does anybody go there?

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We're not supposed to talk about it.

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It's not my birthday.

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Come on! I got a wife almost like you at home. Same, same, but different.

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Oh my gosh, how old am I gonna be?

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Uh 112. How old are you? I don't know. 57? No, eight.

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Gonna be 57?

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No, you're gonna be 58. No, I'm not. Yes, you are. I think you're 59. You could be 62.

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No, hold on. Wait, where am I? Um I was born in 69, so that means I'm gonna be 57. Right?

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Yeah. I think 69 plus 50. So I'm gonna be 59 then.

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No, you're gonna be 58. Oh, you're already 58? No, you're gonna be 58. You're 57 now. Okay. Whatever.

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Nobody cares.

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Oh, I'm not gonna- I'm gonna be Heinz 57. You just gotta smack me on that number.

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57 different varieties.

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Yeah.

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Oh my gosh.

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What?

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Taylor Swift. No! No! This person was kidding. The text was in jest.

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Is she gonna take his name? Is she gonna be um what's her name? Taylor Kelsey.

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That's weird. No.

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You don't think so? No.

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Taylor Swift Kelsey? No. She's uh no, he's gonna become Travis Swift.

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Swift. Yes! Actually sounds better. Does it?

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Especially for a football player.

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Sure. Travis Swift. And then you can't.

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Kenny says that he has a membership at Scrubbies, but we're not supposed to talk about it.

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Don't talk about Scrubbies, but if you go to Scrubbies, tell them they should be advertising with us. Right. You know, because we like it clean as a whistle. Oh, what? Hello? I can't whistle anymore.

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You can't? I used to be able to whistle better. My dad could do that with that.

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I can never do that.

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With the two fingers, and like everybody in the world would anybody do that.

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I know, because you lose your hearing. And people do that. So annoying. Um let me see. Taylor Swift. Maybe it's just a whole head fake. Do you know that guy, Sly Stone, the singer from the 70s, who recently passed away?

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Yes.

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You do?

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I don't know him personally.

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I know of him, yes. He was the first, he was the first like celebrity to get married at MSG back in the 70s. And he was divorced like a year later. Of course. And they got married in front of all their fans and everything. So that for that reason alone, I wouldn't do it because it was just so, you know.

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Why don't they just save everybody the headache and do like, you know, every once in a while Burger King offers the wedding special? I mean, they could do that.

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Well, here's the thing: like, what is she worth? Like two billion dollars?

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I maybe. Do you want me to look? I'll look, sir.

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I mean, I'm just wondering, like why I is she doing it for the fans?

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2.1 billion. Her fortune spans 800 million in royalties and touring, a music catalog worth 600 million, and 110 million in real estate. So she's diversity.

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It doesn't mean that it's actual money.

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Her worth is they're saying her net worth is 2.1 billion. It's the same thing as Elon. His net worth is this, but he it's not like he can write. You'd have to liquidate it. Yeah. It's not like he can write a trillion dollar check to you.

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Yeah.

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I mean, they all do that. Yeah, it's like Gene Simmons is worth a half a billion. He's very mad about that because he wanted to be a chance to do it.

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Did you open those Trump accounts yet?

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Uh no, we're doing that this weekend.

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Because it has to be the 4th of July, right? Is that when you do it?

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No, that's when they said it was going to be widely available, but I think they're ahead of schedule. I don't I don't know if there's a a a time limit on that.

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I was just wondering. Because like, can't I just write checks to that instead of buying silly gifts that you you just launches the fourth. You just have way too much stuff who for the kids.

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Me?

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Yeah.

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What do you mean, me?

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You guys have it uh too much stuff for the kids. Like for me to buy more stuff, it doesn't matter. I'd rather give the money for the Trump account.

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Oh, I gotcha. I know what you mean, huh? Yes, yes.

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So are is there a way to give money to the Trump account?

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I am on the official webpage, and it says that you can start contributing on July 4th.

SPEAKER_04 10:25

Okay. So when do you get your thousand for the baby?

SPEAKER_02 10:28

I think as soon as we sign up for the baby. Nicolina is past that. Yes. So we'll have to contribute. We're gonna take the you remember when we got the first checks from Trump? Remember the the the uh to help kickstart the economy? That actually kind of kickstarted inflation a little bit, if we're honest. Trump, when he when it was 1800 bucks, the stimulus check. I think it was eighteen hundred bucks. We still have that.

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Oh, great.

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We put that in a bank account and it's sitting there because we said, A, it feels weird. We don't want it. We didn't need it. I mean, everybody, of course, we love money. Everybody loves money, can always use extra money. But it just felt weird because her and I were at an okay place and it's like we sat on it, and now we're gonna use that to kickstart and see Nicolina's Trump account.

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That's good.

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So they're both Trump money. That's Trump money. Right. So we're both gonna kickstart.

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Probably like if it's eighteen hundred, it's probably on target.

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Yeah. So we're not gonna be able to do the max. I don't think my wife and I can't afford that, but we're gonna try to contribute every month into their accounts like they recommend. And by the time they're 28, that you know may not be the max amount that they'll have, but they'll have a decent chunk of chance.

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How do you max it out? What's the max amount?

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I can't remember what they had said. It's uh let's see. Contributions during the growth period are generally subject to an annual combined limit of 5,000 in 2026 and then 7,000. Uh blah blah blah. Oh, it's lower than the IRA. Uh so it's five thousand a year, I think, is what I can't remember what I think it's up to five thousand a year. And I don't we're not gonna be able to do that. But we'll do as much as we can. We'll set aside a certain amount each month and let that baby grow. And then it'll mature when each kid is at twenty-eight.

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This is collectively across parents and family members and the child's own contribution. So it's five thousand total. So if your employer contributes to your child, um I guess some charities and government organizations do it as well. Um so the only thing that doesn't count towards the five thousand annual limit is the seed money of a thousand dollars.

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Right. So that's why we can put the seed.

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And certain qualified charitable organizations do not count against your five thousand. Yeah. And unlike a Roth IRA, there is no earned income requirement to contribute to a Trump account. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, you can get with Andy Hazel of Everett Jones. He'll give you some guidance on that and how it all works. They're up on that stuff. I tell you, Andy Hazel has a smart guy. Well, what's interesting about how Edward Jones works is um when you're working with your person, it all goes through after you decide on a plan, it goes through like the powers that be and make sure that they like double and triple check the plan based on your age, your income. They take it's like a board, it goes through.

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Wow. You got a lot of people looking at it exactly using the brain trust.

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Exactly.

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I like that.

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Um, and and I I and I think a lot of these types of organizations um operate like that. I'm not sure. But um, you know, Andy Hazel has talked me off the ledge a few times. So uh so I think that's cool. But like one of the things that you have to figure out, which I really is like what if you're in a position to help someone or your kids or someone, what's the best way to help those people? Um, and there are ways that you can help people that kind of screw you up and screw them up all in the one. And then there are ways that you can say, Hey, crunch the numbers, figure out, you know, maybe loop in your tax accountant and figure out the best way to do stuff. So it's just um you gotta be smart with your money. I mean, did you see Trump's financial disclosures? Yeah, he made a billion in uh crypto.

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Yeah.

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Uh a lot of people, you know, weren't too keen on that. Really? But I well, I'm what I'm saying is it's um, you know, it's kind of uh all within legal limits. And he says, I don't I d you know he answered that question, right?

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Yeah, uh I had that somewhere saved.

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Well, we can just play it. But I mean everybody's operating within legal limits, right? That's what they tell us everybody in Congress does every day. And I don't think it I don't think anything, any of it should be happening. I think it's like I when the stakeholders are making decisions and I don't think any of it should be happening. I don't like it on any side.

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I agree with you.

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I don't like it at all. So you know he I mean his financial disclosures and and that's really what the difference is. Trump was honest about his disclosures. So I mean people say, oh, he's lost money being president. Um well he's making tons of money right now because he already had tons of money.

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We know that, and money makes money and then he's not in charge of his organization, but that doesn't mean that he's not making decisions that would benefit his organization. I don't think he's out to screw the American market. Right. I don't think he's out to screw screw the American people whatsoever. I do think that he does want everyone to succeed. Well, that's what he said. There's a difference between somebody like he and uh Barack Obama or Bill Clinton who both claim they left the White House totally broke and now are multi, multi, multi-multi-milli millionaires because of laundered book deals. We know how that works. Did you know that just real quick, yeah, Dr. Jill's book's book after a very short time fell off the list. That never happens. Do you know what it is? It's money laundering because they can't write checks to these people the way because it'll break a lot of rules. So, what it is is they buy their books. Their own books? Other people buy their own books, like a ton of them. It shoots up into the bestseller list and they do nothing with the books. And that's how they money launder. And I'm telling you, these book deals, Netflix deals, all that stuff is all nothing but money laundering. I appreciate Trump, although it makes me feel squeamish when I see any of one anybody in any kind of position of political power making tons of money. I know it's like but however, there is a difference off the presidency, right?

SPEAKER_04 17:24

Like, even like you know, he sells the watches, the coins, the meat, the you know, what was it, the Trump coin or the Bitcoin?

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The Trump phone, all that stuff. And no, I don't like it either.

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Yeah.

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Um, it's a big club and we're not in it, blah, blah, blah. But at least he is up front, honest about it. He's not out to screw us, unlike the other two that I just mentioned. And that's just the the two I mentioned.

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Yeah.

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They will screw over the American people at the drop of a hat to make a mu a a dime. Look at the Clintons. Clinton Foundation. Come on.

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Oh that's the that's the see, they're scammers. That's what I mean. So if Trump's making money to the law legally, and it's legit, I don't have a problem with it, but it's still cringe worthy. Thank you. It feels icky. It does. Um, but I don't know. I don't blame him because he's a businessman. And he's always made money. Did you see his comment on it?

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I missed it.

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Okay. Well, maybe we'll cover it.

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I I was a little busy at the church last night. It's like somebody had a trap. There was like a trapdoor in the back of the church. It was like the the kid, the the what is the entourage of children getting baptized. These kids were just standing up saying, I I want to turn my my life over to Jesus. So wait, was this a planned event? Not really. It was just like it snowballed. These kids spent all this time at uh at this camp, Camp Joy, and they had a lot of fun. And my daughter was one of them, had a great time, had a blast, you know, learned about Jesus and doing it in a fun way. And, you know, all the things that elementary kids do, elementary school kids do, and then, you know, the teenagers would kind of help. They were like the camp counselors and then supervised by the uh the parents. And it was just a fun time, and it all culminated and wrapped up with the kids. The whole church was turned over to the kids last night. Wow. And they did the service, did communion, did everything. Wow. And they were just phenomenal. And they just felt so moved so cool that they all wanted to get baptized, and it just never ended. It's like, where are these kids coming from? Is there a door in the back that's like open and all the neighborhood kids are coming in? That was so and my daughter, who on her own wanted to get baptized a while ago, wanted to rededicate. She felt moved by it. You know, and it was just it was really cool. And just sitting back there, I'm just wow. That is cool. I for all I know, they're still getting baptized. You had to leave. I had to go, I gotta, I gotta go to work. It was the clown carved. I said, Pastor Danny, this is your church. You take care of this. I gotta go. My kid's done. I'm tired. Yeah. Anyway, all right, you ready? Uh yeah. Because guess what? What? Say it. We're late.

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This is the Liz Callaway Show with Nick Summers back in a bit.

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Propane dude beat you to it on the text line. You're late.

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We were early before, so you wouldn't let me go early. Six of one, half dozen of another.

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Doesn't matter. It's trans Friday. It's all the same.

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It's all the same. No one cares. No one's paying attention. Exactly. Alright. I'm trans late. Which means. Does that mean you're early? I'm early. I'm identifying as early.

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I'm trans early. No, you're sis late. What'd you call me? Huh?

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I'm identifying as early. I'm gonna use that. I'm like like obnoxiously late.

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Wait till eight o'clock when I leave the show. Oh, I I'm identifying as staying late after work.

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Oh my gosh.

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Go.

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Alright. Freedom isn't something you take for granted.

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250 years old.

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Happy Independence Day! Happy birthday, America!

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Happy Fourth America.

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From the Liz Callaway show with Nick Summers.

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Alright, because we're so late, uh I'll play this and ban that word from our late vocabulary, yeah. Um is it music trans comedy?

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It's it could be. All the songs are themed trans? No. That'd be like four hours of Dude Looks Like a Lady.

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Alright, so what she got for us? Oh, I'll play it when we come back.

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Oh we're gonna try to stay up.

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Well, CNN spent like a half an hour on this financial disclosure, so I just want to play it for you because not the whole ten minutes. Um, but I wanna play it for you because I just want you to know what you're up against, because you're gonna hear a lot of this over the Fourth of July weekend when you gather with friends. And I really do think they do it on purpose. Sure. They're like, oh, here, this is a great way for people to argue over hot dogs. Like they're just trying to pit everybody against it. You know why? Because when you're fighting with everybody, um you know, America Alex comedy. You're not paying attention to what's really trying, yeah, happen here. Um, and so what I say is when you're talking to relatives, this is I this is how I realize the best thing to do is just go, you have a really good point there. Thank you for pointing that out. You're right. You're right, you got a really good point. That's a really I see how you yeah, I see how you're seeing it. And just diffuse it.

SPEAKER_02 22:45

Well, since it's a validate people and just walk away. Cook out, you can actually something more apropos be I smell what you're cooking.

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Exactly. That's it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Just say, you know, I I see I can see it that way. Yeah, I see how you can feel that way. Just do that. Just move on. You're never gonna win the battle. So why lose the war by multiple like relationship law? Like, don't bother. Um, that's what I recommend. But then again, who the heck am I? 636. We'll be back in a moment.

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From 13 colonies to 50 states, from it to 12 to 20. Doing a half centuries, I'm doing it our way. You will, you will do it, you will.

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Exciting. Very so exciting. Even though all these soccer experts say no way can team you this big. I'm telling you, they say friends and some other whatever idiot team are the ones to be. All I know is we get a kid rock happen and we're born friendly, baby.

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But tell me if I don't survive.

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You know, um, I think there was a commercial with Bruce Springsteen singing Born in the USA, and it was showing like all these people that are, I would say apparently foreigners. And I think the insinuation from it was they were born in the USA, therefore, it was like a birthright citizenship thing. Yeah. Uh PSA, did you see that at all?

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I did not. I'm not surprised. Yeah.

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Anyway, I think they were racially profiling and assuming they were from out of the country but born here. But I guess they were actually born here from foreign parents and they looked like they would be foreign, but they are essentially born here. So, like the the question is when you have when you have a child that's born here, what happens to you as parents, and then you have siblings from that child that are not born here?

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I I honestly I don't know the answer to that, but if you if you have come here illegally and you have a child here, I think that you come in. That's different.

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No, it's not. That's the point of birth tourism. No, no, no, I know, but you're here legally.

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Hold on a second. Let me back up the intent to come here and have an anchor baby, which includes birth tourism, I get that. But if you're here on vacation and it's not that, because that's easily proved for Pete's sakes. I mean, all you gotta do is quick history search and what it is you're planning to do. I mean, you move here and you're eight months pregnant, nine months pregnant, a week to go kind of thing. Well, that's you shouldn't be traveling. But you are, you're putting yourself and your baby at risk to do what? To claim to have this anchor baby. Now, if you're seven months pregnant and you had to come here for work, or you were just traveling through and you know, in one of our our official territories and you have a baby, you know, most of those people, quite honestly, and they I watched an interview and they were saying a person said that I was actually on vacation. I I gave birth early in a foreign hospital, meaning somewhere in America, or at least one of our islands or whatever, and it was brought up. Well, you can get uh, you know, I'd say, no, I'm from here. I want to go back home. I want to do that. That is where my baby is this. I can't remember where it was.

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But I think it's a choice. You're right. You could say, I don't want to be in America. I don't want my baby to be.

SPEAKER_02 26:54

Right. Normal people, that's what they would do. Listen, if if my wife gave birth, you know, unexpectedly, we're not traveling that close to her due date, but let's just say something. Some stuff happens. Right, stuff happens.

SPEAKER_04 27:04

Seven months pregnant, you're on a baby moon. Correct. You're in the Bahamas. I get it. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 27:09

That's my point. We would never say, Oh, I would love dual citizen. No. I want to make sure my baby is cool.

SPEAKER_04 27:17

No.

SPEAKER_02 27:18

That's not cool. No. We're in America.

SPEAKER_04 27:20

But to get dual citizenship is cool for your child. That's a cool thing.

SPEAKER_02 27:26

In fact, when she's 18, she can decide that.

SPEAKER_04 27:28

I would like to pursue getting my Italian dual citizenship. Okay. Because then you can do things like travel freely in Europe.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

Dual citizenship is different than just being an American citizen, which is their goal here.

SPEAKER_04 27:40

Well, I'll tell you this. Um, Javier's Javier got married in Mexico to an American. And they lived there, and they had a baby there. And then she got a job in Chicago, and they all moved to Chicago. And Javier got permanent residency. And his son, when he turned 18, had to choose US citizenship or Mexican citizenship. That's how that went. And that was 39 years ago. Um, and so he chose American citizenship. And of course, um, Javier's daughter was born here, and she became, and then Javier became a citizen after that. But the point is, is like that's how that worked. Now, a child that is born here, and the parents are foreign, you know, in Javier's case, one parent was American citizen. So um the child is born here, and when they turn 21, they can sponsor their parent for permanent residency when they turn 21. So the value is great to have a child born here. Because eventually the parents and then there's chain migration, which still exists, and you can start applying for other people's family. Um some families travel here solely to get a US citizenship.

SPEAKER_02 29:19

But a lot of people are doing this for nefarious reasons. You know, the slow takeover, the shit.

SPEAKER_04 29:25

I'm just saying we should address the problem. Yes, I agree. Be in in a legal manner. Because I don't think it's hard to figure out whether or not that person is here for birth tourism or not.

SPEAKER_02 29:40

That's what I mean. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_04 29:41

That should be easy to figure out.

SPEAKER_02 29:43

Right.

SPEAKER_04 29:43

And how soon how I want to know how birth tourism works. Like, do you come here like just before you're due? Like what is the birth tourism process?

SPEAKER_02 29:59

I would like to talk to somebody who either has first hand knowledge of it, not you know, somebody who's partisan who's like crazy ideologue about these things. I mean someone who actually knows. Oh, yeah, of course. But the Chinese government's paying for it. Well, rich people in the Chinese are paying the government. I thought everybody had equal access to the same amount of money in China. Right.

unknown 30:23

Right.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

That isn't that communism. Oh, to qualify so it doesn't really work like it says it does on paper.

SPEAKER_04 30:33

Yeah. To qualify for a B2 visitor visa while pregnant, the application, the applicant must prove the trip is temporary. They will leave the USA after the visit. They have enough money to pay for all medical costs, they are not using public benefits, they are truthful about pregnancy, medical care, and purpose of travel. They have strong ties home, such as a job, home, family, finances. And giving birth cannot be the primary purpose of the trip if the goal is to obtain a U.S. citizenship for the baby. State Department rules offer allow officers to deny visas for that reason. So why aren't we doing that? I don't understand. Why is this an issue? If that is actually the law. That's from the State Department. I'm reading it.

SPEAKER_02 31:24

Uh it's simple. If a mother isn't a citizen and the baby, then the baby isn't a citizen. No exceptions. I agree with that. I'm sorry. If you are not a citizen of these United States, it doesn't automatically make your baby a citizen. That's the law right now. Okay. I get that. I get that, but it should, it should be that way.

SPEAKER_04 31:44

Yeah, I know, but that's not how it works.

SPEAKER_02 31:47

Okay, then an amendment needs to happen.

SPEAKER_04 31:49

Right now it's birthright.

SPEAKER_02 31:50

Yeah, no. But but how come how come all of the natives, the American Indians, how come none of them were made automatic citizens? Because they weren't back in the day. They weren't. We're on stolen land from people who aren't citizens. I don't understand. I mean, the the liberal logic here is talk about perplexing.

SPEAKER_04 32:08

You mean they're not American citizens?

SPEAKER_02 32:10

They were not. No, are they now? I don't know the answer to that.

SPEAKER_04 32:13

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 32:14

I know that initially when this was brought up, due to slavery and the freed slaves, which is why this was created, they'll tell you that it says so right in the text of the uh the amendment, the 14th. Mm-hmm. American Indians were not included. In fact, there were still many cases not. I'm typing in. Considered. Yeah, check it out. Um I read uh a blurb.

SPEAKER_04 32:37

Today, Native Americans in the United States are U.S. citizens at birth. But the legal basis is a little different historically from most other people.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

And I think that's what I was reading.

SPEAKER_04 32:48

Before 1924, many Native Americans born in the U.S. were not automatically considered U.S. citizens, especially if they were born of federally recognized tribes. This was because tribes were viewed as separate sovereign nations, and tribal members were not always considered subject to jurisdiction of the United States under the 14th Amendment. But in 1924, the Indian Citizenship Act granted U.S. citizenship to all Native Americans born within the territorial United States. And now today, when they're born, they are U.S. citizens at birth and citizens of their federally recognized tribe, able to vote, obtain passports, and enjoy the same constitutional rights as U.S. as U.S. citizens.

SPEAKER_02 33:36

That's what I read. It wasn't until later. So my point is if they want to scream, the 14th Amendment says this, well, you know, it didn't really fix everything.

SPEAKER_03 33:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

It was specifically for one thing. The slaves. Yeah. That's it. And it's now being used and abused. They had to create a separate law or a separate, whatever, exclusion, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_03 34:00

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 34:01

To for the the natives, the American Indians. Yeah. So their argument that the court proved right.

SPEAKER_04 34:09

That proves that it wasn't applicable to every man.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

That's my point. And then it's now being used and abused. But and the Supreme Court did make a mistake. I get it. You can't make an executive order. I get that. This is better this way. I well, I do, but the problem is you can't trust anybody in the GOP to do anything right.

SPEAKER_04 34:26

No, no, but in the long run, it's great that this happened because you know why? It put a spotlight on it, right? And it's now heating up the Congress to do something. Let's say the Supreme Court went that way, the right way, the way it was so intended. Let's just say, and the executive order stood, and all these people are now not American citizens. How would that look going into the midterms? Bad. Okay? And that would put Congress off the hook. And what would happen if, God forbid, a Democrat gets re uh gets elected in 2028? The executive order is gone and we're back in the same boat. I agree. So this is a good thing. It stops the bad look. This is my opinion. And I, you know, this is a long game. It put a it put a spotlight on the problem, it explains the problem, you hear all sides, and now the ball is in Congress's court. Let it get codified. That's what I say.

SPEAKER_02 35:35

No, I do agree.

SPEAKER_04 35:36

And it's a bad look going into the midterms.

SPEAKER_02 35:39

I listen, I agree, but there's a part of me that says the GOP can't count on him for anything and we're screwed.

SPEAKER_04 35:44

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 35:44

We need the same America Act.

SPEAKER_04 35:46

Just choose the position.

SPEAKER_02 35:48

I know.

SPEAKER_04 35:50

We gotta get a shirt that says that.

SPEAKER_02 35:52

Okay. Because people won't take that wrong.