TALK 94.5 Liz And Nick
TALK 94.5 Liz And Nick
BREITBART'S KURT ZINDULKA CHECKS IN 4/1/26
Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.
Thanks for for joining us. Kurt is the London Deputy Editor for Breitbart. And we Americans have difficulty understanding how British government works, but we did see that Keir Starmer resigned, and we were kind of surprised by it because he won by such a landslide a couple of years ago. And uh I guess he's been on a steady decline ever since. So can you give us an idea of why people resign and don't fulfill their uh uh fulfill their full term? What happens like that?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's it's certainly a a bit of a strange uh concept over there. Um but the the short gist of it is basically that he just didn't have the support of of his party members anymore. And that's that's because he he he's been in the dumps really since he took office. You're right to say that he came in with a large majority, but in reality, nobody was excited about voting for Sir Keir Starmer or the Labor Party. No one ever really even knew the guy that well. They really just voted for him because the previous Conservative Party, which is sort of more analogous to the Democrats in the United States, really, despite their name, um, performed so badly that they were just like, get anybody else in there. And they they they threw in Starmer, and really his polls have been in the jump since he first got in there. Um within weeks there were there were riots over um a my uh second generation migrant uh stabbing a bunch of children at a dance party, and really ever since then, he hasn't been able to recover his his economy has been in the in the trash, and he's presided over the most uh illegal crossings of the English Channel by illegal migrants um out of any prime minister in history. So really I th I thought this was a long time coming. Um I don't think it was that much of a surprise. Um what was the final I'm sorry, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I was just gonna say, what was the final straw to make him do that? Because they've been suffering for quite some time then for two years under that type of rule.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, exactly. Right. So the last straw was last month, they held local elections across the UK. Um these are for like local governments, uh council seats, um, and the labor party just got wiped out. This is Tirkir Starmer's party. They got wiped out. Okay. And especially in working class areas of the country that have been voting for the Labor Party for a hundred years, they started voting for Nigel Farage's Reform UK Party, and basically everybody in the Labor top brass started freaking out. And so what happened was this guy, uh, the Manchester mayor, Andy Burnham, someone stepped down in Parliament to let him run for a seat in the House of Commons. And once he won that election last week, uh the writing was on the wall for Starmer. He knew he was gonna have he was gonna lose to Burnham essentially in a leadership challenge, so he resigned this week to get out before he got kicked out, essentially.
SPEAKER_01Now you mentioned that uh I think it was a little girls' party at a dance studio, it had a Taylor Swift theme. It was just absolutely horrific. What um what has transpired since then? Have people been able to voice their opinion freely? I mean, we were talking uh uh we have an intern here uh and he was mentioning uh reminding me actually of when uh they started talking about the started talking about these IDs that you have you have to upload your ID in order to I don't know, access some of the websites and social media platforms to prove who you are under the guise of protecting children. Was that kind of um a little too much for people as well? Or are people on board for with all that, you know, eyes on you uh type of government?
SPEAKER_02No, I don't think I don't think people are a fan of this at all, actually. Um certainly it's popular within the you know the elite classes where Stormer hangs out, but the British public have always been very much against the idea of digital ID. This was something that uh former Tony former Prime Minister Tony Blair was really big on. They tried to push that in the early 2000s, and the British public really rejected it as you know, this is this is really not in in keeping with their traditions, especially a lot of people remember during the Second World War, people were forced to carry IDs and across Europe, and they they really felt like the the British were always sort of more free in that regard. So there's been always uh a real real hesitancy to do stuff like this. But people in the Labour Party, they they don't get in power that often. And one of their their ministers who resigned last month was saying the pushing for this type of more uh state control and state monitoring was saying, hey, look, we don't get in office that much. When we do, we really need to push as far as possible. So I think that's what they're trying to they're trying to get in as much as possible before they get kicked out again, essentially.
SPEAKER_01I mean, do you I mean we just saw something really crazy happen in New York that, you know, we have a mayor, uh Mamdani, who supported three really Socialist Democrats um in three different primaries and they won last night. Uh and I'm a former New Yorker. I mean, I just can't believe the path that New York is going down like I can see this happening in a in a few years in New York where the pendulum is swinging the opposite direction, I'm hoping. Uh but does it have to get really bad before it gets better?
SPEAKER_02I think sometimes, yeah, people need a wake-up call. Um that's certainly been true. I think people are certainly getting that that sort of wake-up call in Britain, I think, you know, especially with with a lot of the recent, you know, some of the horrific rapes and and murders committed by migrants allowed in by by the government. Um there is certainly there's certainly being a pushback. And I think I think we're seeing a pushback across Europe against this, you know, left-wing socialist open borders ideology. Um the the I think similar things in France are gonna be happening soon, where it looks like the you know Trump-aligned parties are gonna get in there. And I think really what's what's a great positive about the Starmer resignation this week is showing how fed up the people are with this type of government. And uh his replacement, you know, his uh Andy Burnham, who describes himself as a socialist and is very pro-migration, I don't think he has very long uh left in the in he's gonna be coming in next month, maybe September at the latest. I doubt he lasts a year, to be honest, just because the people are so fed up over there.
SPEAKER_01So uh what what is next for UK? Because we had heard that there were people voicing their opinions and literally getting jailed for certain things. Is that actually true? Is that going on? Uh is what's the law that's doing that?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean they have a raft of different laws. Uh they have you know a lot of hate speech laws. That's one of the primary things that most people get locked up on. Uh but just like communications uh codes. Um there's there's insane things where it's like if you made someone feel uncomfortable essentially. Um there's been some walking back of that a little bit. They recently got rid of the uh non-crime hate incidents, which was some of the most Orwellian stuff over there. Yeah um that's where you didn't even commit a hate crime offense anyway, but uh they would still put uh create a a log and police records for you, which could be shown up in like uh background checks by employers, just completely insane stuff over there. And it's true, they still are getting arrested en masse um for things they say on the internet. Um but and and one of the big fights really going on right now is is going to be control of the internet, you know. I think you you're right to identify this um because to stay in power, these the the left-wing government essentially is going to want to try to limit access to information. We're seeing them trying to ban um people under the age of 16 from accessing social media. I think that is very much connected to the fact that people like Nigel Farage are very popular on social media, popular on apps like TikTok, and they want to control that message. I don't know if they're gonna be able to succeed in preventing um Farage from coming to power though, but they're certainly gonna try.
SPEAKER_01So, in other words, what you're you know intimating here is that by by Farage is very popular, so they can't really stop him, but they can stop who's listening. Um that would be the new crop of kids coming up. And and we talk about this um, you know, I was talking with our intern earlier, that the government is uh there is just as a hierarchy of people in power in general, whether you like them or don't like them. They're just trying to control everything we think and do and stay in power for as much money as possible and for as much time as possible. And whether you like it or don't like it, it never seems like they have the best interest of us in mind. And you just have to always choose the lesser of evils, it seems. That's how it seems.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, uh it's it's certainly scary over there and across Europe in general. I mean, I did a story earlier this week about how the government is going to be trying to use some of its new censorship powers to try to force companies like Facebook and YouTube to prioritize um so-called trusted media sources like the BBC and and others over independent media. Um they're certainly tr they're afraid of losing control of the narrative. And you know, the BBC isn't that trustworthy at all, in my opinion. They have recently had to apologize to Fraj for making up quotes about him. And, you know, famously last year they they spliced together uh Donald Trump's speech from January 6th to make it look like he was calling for riots when he didn't. So that's your trusted media source for you.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so what is next for the UK? Are are we going into the fire or are we going from the frying pan into something better?
SPEAKER_02Well, I think it's gonna have to get a little bit hotter first. So we're gonna have uh Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham all in all likelihood become the next prime minister over the next month or so. Um and he's going to try to do some left-wing project if he could he could rescue the party. I I doubt it. His big thing is gonna be trying to nationalize some some infrastructure, so some some socialist takeover. I don't think that's gonna help. And I'd I if if you're asking me to predict, I'd predict that within a year we see an election, and after that, I'd predict Nigel Fraj becomes the next prime minister.
SPEAKER_00Did um Trump have any role in Starmer's uh demise?
SPEAKER_02You know, I think there there's certainly there is there is a bit of that role. I mean, Starmer was smart initially um when Trump came back into power. Starmer tried to cozy up to him, but really after the the the conflict in Iran, where Starmer refused to allow American uh f fighter jets to use our our joint bases, that relationship completely fell apart.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_02And look, uh a big part of the job of any prime minister in Britain is to be on good terms with the United States, and he completely lost that. I mean, I remember Trump was saying he's no Churchill and Great Britain was our once great ally. And I thought just amazingly, the tw less than 24 hours before Starmer resigned, Trump came on Truth Social and told the world that Starmer was gonna resign, which uh was a little bit of a final humiliation as he was leaving the door. I love it. I love it.
SPEAKER_01All right, Kurt Zindulka, London deputy editor of Breitbart.com. Are you in the Fight Club?
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah. Oh yeah, all the time. I was on there yesterday.
SPEAKER_01All right, you can go to Breitbart.com and click on the Fight Club tab. Join it. It's uh the best money you'll spend for exclusive content, videos, and uh podcasts. Thank you so much, Kurt. We appreciate your time.
SPEAKER_03Thanks, Listen.