6 O'FIVERS WAKE UP ITS WEDNESDAY 6/17/26

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SPEAKER_09 0:00

Happy early voting day today and tomorrow. Um, I believe it's like 8 30 to like 5, I think it is, Nikki. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's only for two days, and then you go to vote on Tuesday. I think this debate was a phenomenal showing of of their viewpoints and their positions. I learned a lot from this debate. And if you paid attention, you'll know exactly who to vote for. Now, the only people that can vote in this runoff election.

SPEAKER_06 0:34

I had to do the quinn song, but that's all right. That were too late.

SPEAKER_07 0:38

That was wow.

SPEAKER_09 0:39

I didn't even know what that was. Um, but I will tell you this. Okay, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_06 0:45

It was the end of the ad. No, no, that's okay. That's all right. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_09 0:48

I blew it.

SPEAKER_06 0:50

You didn't.

SPEAKER_07 0:51

It's only the Quinn time.

SPEAKER_09 0:52

I was just giving the intro to the show.

SPEAKER_07 0:54

Did the ad say Quinn? Because it felt like five different people saying Quinn when you played that.

SPEAKER_06 0:59

I don't know what the ad was. I thought I got past it and it was still like rolling. So I hit skip and then you heard the song. Moving on.

SPEAKER_09 1:07

Yeah. Um, well, I forgot my train of thought now, so I don't think so.

SPEAKER_07 1:12

You know the right way to vote.

SPEAKER_09 1:13

Uh if you watch the No, no, no. The only people who can vote are people who voted Republican in the last election or didn't vote at all. So in other words, if you voted Democrat in the first primary, like Quintern, you asked for the Democrat ballot, then you cannot vote for either one of these. Uh you can vote in the Democrat primary, but you cannot switch now. So you're now stuck in the Democrats. Um so that's uh so that's interesting because that will stop um crossover sabotage, saboteurs, you want to get it. For this sabotage, uh because there are uh liberal saboteurs that will come over and just mess with the election because they have nothing to gain and everything.

SPEAKER_06 2:05

Oh, and they lack really one important thing scruples.

SPEAKER_09 2:09

Scruples. So um no offense. Just some people cross over to do that. Yeah, we don't consider you to be a loony lefty. A loony lefty, right? No, they purposefully, Democrats will purposely vote in the Democrat primary to screw things up. It's a known fact. But anyway, I digress. Uh the debate yesterday, if anybody got to watch it, maybe you saw it in person. Uh there's been a lot of talk about uh not only what the candidates said, but how raucous the crowd was. And the crowd was a little bit uh loud at times. And neither of you actually watched the debate, right?

SPEAKER_07 2:45

No, I was not able to watch it.

SPEAKER_09 2:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 2:47

No, I was dealing with a teething baby. Oh, and a general contractor at my house who was like evil. Was he also teething? He c he might have been. It's my father-in-law. He might have been.

unknown 3:00

Oops.

SPEAKER_09 3:01

So Budget Blank's text line is open. I'd love to have a conversation with someone who actually watched the debate at 843-798-talk 798-8255. We can rely on recaps all you want. But here's the sad part. Most voters are like you two. They didn't watch it.

SPEAKER_06 3:18

I wanted to, but want and shoulda, could've the you and I no, uh don't don't lump in with the the The point is people low information voters. How dare you?

SPEAKER_09 3:30

People who did not watch the debate did not learn anything. Um, and if you watch a recap, that's a subjective reporter's viewpoint um on it, and so you are severely lacking the information um that you need to make a decision. If you were you were counting on, say, like, let's say um brochure like um advertising cards coming in. No, what I'm saying is you need to go on to our Twitter or our Facebook page and watch the debate before you go and vote. That's my point.

SPEAKER_07 4:05

It was saved. The debate was saved.

SPEAKER_09 4:07

Yes, you could watch it at any time. And if you watch it before you vote, you'll have a clear picture of who to vote for. It's very clear. It it the ch the choice is clear. First of all Are you saying it's clear? It's so clear. Crystal clear. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 4:25

Crystal.

SPEAKER_09 4:26

Crystal. And you know what? Um what I learned was the um the people that were calling and claiming that Pamela Evitt is like bought by the casino lobby. If there is one, I don't know if there is one. People say there is one, the chamber is involved. I don't know if that's true. They want to they want uh a casino in Myrtle Beach. I've never heard of a casino being put in Myrtle Beach. Rumors have been around for the yeah.

SPEAKER_08 4:54

We heard the rumors, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 4:56

And they say that's why they're holding that CCMF land. Um, you know, they're gonna put a casino there one day, and that's it. But the only place I heard of a casino being put uh built is in Orangeburg. So I don't know. I don't know if any of it's true, but I will tell you this. I will tell you this. The the little nickname people are giving Pamela Evit, which is Casino Pam, rang a little true last night. Because she didn't say she was against it. She said she was gonna put it up to the voters, and we all know how bad our election integrity is around here. Everyone complains about election integrity. They complain that when you click when you check off I am a U.S. citizen, no one double checks that. You check off I am a U.S. citizen, and they're like, okay. And then you can go and vote. So the election integrity, the voter rolls, the non-purging, the uh the dead people on the rolls, uh the people that move out of apartments, and then the next apartment dweller gets five ballots, you know, those are in those mail in ballot states. But you know, if you think about it, if those people aren't purged off the polls, uh off the voter rolls, can they go to vote and get by? Are they listed under that address, Nick? I wonder.

SPEAKER_06 6:28

That's a good question.

SPEAKER_09 6:29

Because when you move, you're not required to say, I moved to the voter rolls. You you may go to DMV and change your license, but sometimes they they don't really confiscate your license and give you a new one just because you have an address change. So I don't really know how it works. Someone needs to say definitively how our election integrity is safe. We saw videos of people clicking on certain names and it's switching to another name. I don't know if that's true, but there's a video of it, right? With this last election. Yeah, there was. It was just one video. Someone was trying to click on Mark Lynch and it went to Pat Herman. But there's no proof of any widespread. And then they clicked on Mark Lynch again and it went to someone else, and then they clicked on Mark Lynch and it finally took to Mark Lynch. So is are any of these things true? How about the chain of custody of the little disc? How about the fact that people are using their phones to the app on the phone and the and the computer? Um we have heard about these chain of custody issues for years. Every year that I've been here that there's been an election, we hear about this all the time. So if you're gonna leave it up to the voters, I don't trust that method at all.

SPEAKER_06 7:52

The uh new poll right before the debate had uh Wilson up 46.2% to Pamela Evitt 38.5%. 15.3 undecided. That's the latest poll before the debate. So we don't have it's too early for any reasons.

SPEAKER_09 8:11

Yeah. I didn't realize he was up. I didn't haven't looked at the police. It's the first time. Yeah. At least I'm not surprised because 70% of South Carolinians who voted, who are eligible to vote, did not pick her. They picked somebody else. So, and you know, 50% is really how many people well, and then you have people that never voted. You have a whole bunch of other people that have never voted. So very interesting. Um let me see if I can find that part about the casinos.

SPEAKER_06 8:50

I was looking for it just now as I yeah, I did um You have like a breakdown, don't you?

SPEAKER_09 8:57

I do have a breakdown, but I I do have that um clip here somewhere. Um I thought I saved it. Oh, I know. Um it's on Alan Wilson's page.

SPEAKER_06 9:08

That's where I'm at, too. Dang it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 9:11

All right, well, we'll have to ascertain that um when we get off the air. But uh one of the interesting things was um Evet brought Scott Spivey's family because they'll support anyone that's not Alan Wilson. Right, right. So Evet gets it by default.

SPEAKER_06 9:28

That's an old political trick.

SPEAKER_09 9:30

And so um they think they're gonna get some kind of justice by supporting that governor, uh, that person for governor, but here's the thing, what is the governor going to do about that case? What could the governor do about a court case? And it's working its way through the system anyway.

SPEAKER_06 9:52

And at that point, all he has is a bully pulpit. But is it proper for him to weigh in on it as the governor?

SPEAKER_09 10:00

I d I don't know. I don't think so. So why not talk, why not show up to the AG? You know, which AG are you supporting?

SPEAKER_06 10:11

I mean, they got Spivey and Wilson has Stephen Federico.

SPEAKER_09 10:15

Well, so here's the thing with Federico nobody was talking about that murder. Uh the murder of his daughter Logan. Remember when I told you about it? W after the young lady was killed on the train in Charlotte.

SPEAKER_06 10:32

Yes. And people were like, what about here? Yeah. I remember.

SPEAKER_09 10:37

Yeah, and and I was like, wait a minute, we had a similar case. So you think that that individual who's been out in and out of jail like like I don't know what it was, like 19 times, right? I said, the guy who killed Logan Federico has been in and out of jail 39 times. Worse. So you think it's bad in North Carolina, and everybody's focusing on the young Ukrainian woman being killed on the train. We had a young North Carolina girl visiting South Carolina friends in college being killed by a career criminal. It's happening because these prosecutors are not doing their jobs. And not only that, the policies and the judges, you know, you are bound by what the laws are of your, you know, your state and your county. So the prosecutor can only prosecute what he's allowed to prosecute, what is an actual crime, and then the judges are the ones that um are making decisions on sentencing, and then you have lawyers that are charging, right? They are the ones that come up with the charges, the police officers, the y you need laws to do these things. And so I don't know how this guy was in and out of jail 39 times. We still don't know, like the jury's uh not out on this case, but that father endorsed Alan Wilson, and he was there. But he's not a South Carolinian.

SPEAKER_06 12:12

Something no, something that uh you wanted me to remind everybody, or at least remind you, as we had to break so we can stay on time so I don't have to play the we're late liner. You said we gotta talk about this, we gotta talk about this. Let's not forget, because we forget failed to mention it earlier.

SPEAKER_04 12:26

Congressman Ralph Norman throwing his support now behind Attorney General Alan Wilson, making Norman the third former Republican candidate to line up with Wilson ahead of the runoff. WYS State House reporter Steven Bidicks shares how Norman came to his decision.

SPEAKER_03 12:41

Congressman Norman says he never stands on the sidelines and that wasn't starting today. He calls Alan Wilson a battle-tested conservative and says South Carolina can't have four more years of a simpler administration.

SPEAKER_02 12:55

And I'm excited about being part of a team that can uh can do great things for South Carolina and for the country.

SPEAKER_03 13:03

Norman says Wilson's stance on a proposed casino helped seal the deal. Wilson has committed to veto any brick-and-mortar casino bill.

SPEAKER_02 13:11

Sure. I've uh I I'm totally against that. And I as as governor, you're a mouthpiece. And uh so yeah, that was huge to me.

SPEAKER_06 13:20

There you go. Yeah. We fail we didn't mention it yesterday because it was they announced it on Tuesday, or was it Monday? Monday.

SPEAKER_09 13:26

But here's what's interesting morning. Real quick, Alan Wilson was saying that Pam Evid put in her flyer that was against him or and for her, that she signed the bill to make a for constitution carry, right? And he said, When did you sign a bill? When did you sign a bill? How could you sign a bill? You're lieutenant governor. And her reply was the lieutenant, the governor and I are a team. What he does, I do. That was her reply. And to me, I was like, Well, how do you bring up Brandon Troxler, Dr. Hitler? Okay. What about um the COVID restrict? Well, I was just lieutenant governor, I didn't have a say. Okay, so you can't play both sides of the fence on that. So if you're gonna say I signed the bill, she's like, Well, we're an administration. It was the McMaster Evit administration that signed the Constitution carry into law. And I was like, Well, it's okay when it's that, that you're a team. But anything that Henry does that the rest of us are squawking about, like appointing Dr. Traxler to be the health czar, really? And then she turns around and says she would never appoint Simmer, Dr. Simmer, or Dr. Traxler to that position. So then did she do that as a team or no? They're either a team or they're not a team. So what McMaster does, she does, right?

SPEAKER_06 15:07

It reminds me of Steve Urkel, remember?

SPEAKER_09 15:10

Did I do that?

SPEAKER_06 15:13

Uh also throwing a wrinkle in here, the Washington I know the Washington Post is reporting. Is everybody listening? This is so weird. Washington Post, I looked it up. Trump Mull's co-endorsement in South Carolina's governor's race proves tight. An endorsement of both candidates would be the latest example of the president hedging his bets to avoid a fight with a conservative activist.

SPEAKER_09 15:34

How hysterical.

SPEAKER_06 15:36

People on the text line, before we ever mention it, are saying, hey, did you hear about this? Did you hear about this?

SPEAKER_09 15:40

Yeah, we talked about it on the Facebook Live this morning.

SPEAKER_06 15:44

Listen, we're reporting what the Washington Post is reporting. I'm not saying it's true. It sounds unbelievable, but wow, interesting if true.

SPEAKER_09 15:52

Well, he's probably saying either one is great.

SPEAKER_06 15:54

Yeah, and that would be a co-endorsement in their eyes.

SPEAKER_09 15:57

But how ridiculous would that be to get to get the Trump kiss and then get sloppy seconds? I mean, it's like, what the heck? If that's true, that's like, wow.

SPEAKER_06 16:12

And then do you want more from the rumor mill? The social media rumor mill.

SPEAKER_09 16:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 16:19

That's focused uh mainly on South Carolina. This whole Henry Jr. thing. Yeah, I yeah, may not be done.

SPEAKER_09 16:28

What he might go back to Evit?

SPEAKER_06 16:30

That she was because she read the room. I'm just paraphrasing the rumor that multiple people are posting. Again, social media rumors. Could be nothing. But I'm just talking about it since we're in rumorville. Yeah. That she pulled back and they all kind of tried to distance themselves from one another because the primary was still going on, and now runoff. And once that's complete and she secures it, he's back in the mix. That's the rumor.

SPEAKER_09 16:57

It could happen.

SPEAKER_06 16:58

I have no idea.

SPEAKER_09 16:59

Yeah. But as they say, you know, she didn't show up for two debates, and she didn't announce her lieutenant governor, and they said because she didn't need to, she was already leading in the polls, and why fix something that's not broken? Now, Alan Wilson to me seems more transparent, showed up for all three debates, and announced a lieutenant governor, and announced, by the way, what he's going to be in charge of as lieutenant governor. And I'll tell you that when we come back.

SPEAKER_06 17:32

Oh, look at that tease. Because we're late. Back when we were rock stars.

SPEAKER_09 17:41

You just want to hear yourself play guitar.

SPEAKER_06 17:43

Really? This? This is what I choose to showcase my talent? Boys.

SPEAKER_09 17:47

You have a solo. Alright, that's enough. That's enough.

SPEAKER_06 17:56

Oh no. You go, you reach for some good notes here. No, no, no. Oh, yeah, you do. No. I like when it kicks in.

SPEAKER_09 18:02

Oh no, no. No more. Did you like change your guitar sound?

SPEAKER_06 18:10

Yeah, I went from a clean sound to a rock sound.

SPEAKER_09 18:14

Love it. The quick turn is not impressive.

SPEAKER_06 18:19

No, I'm trying to listen in. She keeps talking over herself. I know, I can tell. I'm always popping never to turn down the button. That's really good! Oh my god, you did try. All the time she tried.

SPEAKER_09 18:43

The hardest part. You're nailing it. That sounds really good. Everybody in the crowd helping me.

SPEAKER_07 18:57

I was really good on the last note. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_09 19:00

Why didn't they tell her that? So embarrassing.

SPEAKER_06 19:02

So if you want to see the whole video, good and bad parts of it, you know, we never played that ever before. We just hauled her up and said, hey, let's do this. As a band, we never played it.

SPEAKER_09 19:11

It's like it was like impromptu.

SPEAKER_06 19:13

That's why I say on the post. Impromptu.

SPEAKER_09 19:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 19:16

So if you want to see it.

SPEAKER_09 19:18

That is a huge disclaimer.

SPEAKER_06 19:20

Well, you can see it on my personal page. I also tagged Liz and she's in Twitter jail.

SPEAKER_09 19:25

Sweating and spitzing over here.

SPEAKER_06 19:27

You're in Twitter jail for a while. And then also I don't know why. I don't know. Why'd they block me? Because. And then also on the talk page on X Twitter. Uh if Liz has the uh has the cannolis, I chose that on purpose to post it on Facebook. That would be wonderful. Alright, there we go. That's it. We're late. And that's my fault this time.

SPEAKER_09 19:46

Okay. Um when we come back, I'm gonna play the casino question segment so you can hear what each candidate says about it.

SPEAKER_08 19:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 19:54

I don't know if it's important to you. Is it you know, having a casino or not having a casino, what's important? Um, and so you can hear it for yourself. And if it makes sense to put it to the voters, I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 20:09

Tim was at that show. Said digit.

SPEAKER_09 20:12

Oh, that show, yeah, yeah. I've been at the two. The debate of the show.

SPEAKER_06 20:17

No, he was at a lot of our shows, Tim.

SPEAKER_09 20:19

Oh yeah. All right, 635. We'll be back in a moment. Can you play this?

SPEAKER_06 20:29

Uh I've never learned it, but it it's not.

SPEAKER_09 20:32

I can't wait to get my guitars back. And then you can play my guitars?

SPEAKER_06 20:36

Sure, I'd love to.

unknown 20:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 20:38

I got my own.

SPEAKER_09 20:39

No, I want you to play mine.

SPEAKER_06 20:41

I want to play mine.

SPEAKER_09 20:42

I want to hear what mine sound like for someone who we can actually play.

SPEAKER_06 20:46

Okay, I'll play yours. For a little while. Then I'm going back to mine.

SPEAKER_09 20:49

Oh, whatever. Like if you're like cheating or something.

SPEAKER_06 20:52

I listen, they get mad at me. I can feel it. Like the one in the corner. I don't play that often.

SPEAKER_09 20:59

It's like I feel like wand in the corner? I do.

SPEAKER_06 21:03

And he's got his fancy guitar and he's got his payamas on.

SPEAKER_09 21:27

Alright, it is 6.42. Let me play. I'd rather be a rock station. Me too. Whatever.

SPEAKER_06 21:32

Oh, can't we just do our own thing? No, can't we do our own thing? Yeah. Like from 6 to 10 every morning. We just do a rock format. I'll program it.

SPEAKER_09 21:40

Whatever we feel like it. If we want to talk news, we do. Yeah. Kind of like the Bob of News Talk Radio.

SPEAKER_06 21:46

Thank you. We'll do anything. Well Except that.

SPEAKER_08 21:55

Except that. Sounds like a song. Whatever that is. Yeah, it does.

SPEAKER_06 21:59

I bet you I can know that. Guy's dad. I was thinking Milo Freaky. Oh, yeah. He did pass away. Oh my gosh. Yeah. A long time ago. COVID, too. Well, was it? Anyway, go ahead.

SPEAKER_09 22:10

Sounds like way too much stuff. All right. I want to play this for you. This is this is casino or not to casino? That is the question.

SPEAKER_04 22:21

The question.

SPEAKER_06 22:22

Here we go. Disappointed.

SPEAKER_04 22:24

A proposed casino development in the Santee area has sparked significant debate over economic development, local control, and of course community impact. What is your position on that project? In addition, if you support it, what criteria would you use to determine whether a casino or a similar large-scale gaming development is appropriate for South Carolina communities?

SPEAKER_05 22:47

Judy, thank you, Lieutenant Governor. You begin, you have 60 seconds.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

Well, that's a great question. I think as the CEO of this state, you have to look at everything that comes across your desk. And if it has a good impact, then you got to take it to the people when it comes to casinos. Because I've been to all 46 counties many times. And I've heard from you, the people of South Carolina. If a if a development came to South Carolina that was five stars similar to the green bar, we should look at it and see what economic impact it plays in that area. But before we make any decisions, it should be put on the ballot, and the people of South Carolina should be voting on it. Because nobody should have to live with industry in their backyard that they don't want.

SPEAKER_09 23:34

Okay, before we go on, what do you think about that? What do you think she meant?

SPEAKER_07 23:38

I hated that she called herself the CEO of because I mean Well, that's what she's trying to put forth that she is a business person, like Trump.

SPEAKER_09 23:48

And that's the thing. She will run the state as a CEO. Like be f fiscally responsible. So that is her shtick.

SPEAKER_07 23:57

Fiscal responsibility is one thing, but to call yourself a CEO, you're supposed to be a steward of the people. I don't think you should be running a society like a business. That's a good take. That's a good take.

SPEAKER_09 24:06

I like it. It is a good take.

SPEAKER_06 24:08

But I understand, specifically speaking, with the budgetary concerns within the state and whatever else, you do want to run it like a CEO and not like a handout service, which is basically how they all run now.

SPEAKER_09 24:19

Well, a government that's a primary form of government is serving the people. I agree. Protecting the safety of the people. What is the role of government? You gotta go back. What is the role of government?

SPEAKER_06 24:33

Get out of our way.

SPEAKER_09 24:35

It's not to tell you what to do, it's to protect you and to to make it safe. Especially here, right.

SPEAKER_07 24:46

Just CEO, something about that just doesn't sit right with me. No, not at all. And she also didn't really answer it. I mean, really, she talked around the fact that she was like, I'm gonna leave it up to the people.

SPEAKER_06 24:59

She left her options open as well. Oh, I took her. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 25:02

Someone is paying her from the casino lobby.

SPEAKER_06 25:05

Feels like it when you leave your options open. Yeah. And politically speaking.

SPEAKER_09 25:10

Well, she's very good at political speak.

SPEAKER_06 25:12

For being a non-factory.

SPEAKER_09 25:13

We have a lot of experience for that.

SPEAKER_07 25:15

I'm gonna do whatever is best.

SPEAKER_06 25:18

Conway Jackson didn't say what's best on the budget blinds text line, because you had asked. Uh I watched the debate. Okay. I don't trust Evan. I had an open mind, but after watching it, Wilson is the fighter.

SPEAKER_09 25:28

It was a great debate.

SPEAKER_06 25:30

Uh let's see.

SPEAKER_09 25:30

I learned a lot.

SPEAKER_06 25:32

Tim, the car detail guy, said, Did you watch how they uh interrupted Wilson twice? Yes. With the uh with an ad for like a blinds company and then uh Did we talk about that on the radio? No, we talked about it on the face of the thing. Yeah, and then a political pack hit piece thingy on Wilson. Yeah, and he said he's not alone. Even uh Margaret the Lawyer was commenting on that on the on also on social media saying, What are they doing? Interrupting them twice.

SPEAKER_09 25:59

Yes, twice.

SPEAKER_06 26:00

So people were commenting on that. I'm just going over the bigger. Budget blinds text line, just reading it.

SPEAKER_09 26:06

And it made me think, was the blinds company playing that? Did they attach that spot to them? No. And and they said, hey, we're gonna pay for this and play this spot because it did it it was tandem both times. It was the same Blinds Company and it was the the um pack attack commercial against Wilson twice while he was speaking. Can you literally pick that time?

SPEAKER_06 26:37

I didn't think you could.

SPEAKER_09 26:38

I thought it was an accident, but then it happened a second time, and I was like, that ain't no accident.

SPEAKER_06 26:42

The only thing I can think of is maybe there were not, okay, I'm gonna get into the weeds of things, but you and I know what local avails are, where you have if okay, for example, AB just I'm throwing ABC out there.

SPEAKER_09 26:57

They need to answer it.

SPEAKER_06 26:58

Right. ABC will have two minutes of national spots, and that's when you will see the national highly produced McDonald's.

SPEAKER_09 27:06

There were no commercials, there were no other commercials.

SPEAKER_06 27:09

And that none. And then the network will give you one minute local avail, and it will cut to your local station, and they'll play your favorite car dealer ad and then somebody's sanitation company thing. Okay. So that's kind of why it came up. So that's what I wonder is the station locally who hosted it, did they just force in their own local avails where there were none?

SPEAKER_09 27:29

There was just one commercial for the Blinds Company, and then a pack attack against Wilson. Then it happened again. The same Blinds Company.

SPEAKER_06 27:40

Once as maybe an accident, twice as then the pack attack.

SPEAKER_09 27:43

And both was when he was speaking and came back just in time for her to speak. So I didn't hear two of his answers. All right, let me play this answer about casinos.

SPEAKER_05 27:56

Lieutenant Governor, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 28:01

Thank you. Well, this is the second time I've been asked this question. I was asked in the first debate, a debate Lieutenant Governor wasn't able to make it to. Um, but I answered I answered the question then and I'm not sure. Um I also answered this I'm gonna family um pledge that I made last week. Look, here's the thing. I've got friends on both sides of this issue, but I feel like as the governor, you have to be honest with people. You have to tell people what you feel and not hide behind. I'm gonna give it to the people. Tell them what you think. Be honest. I tell folks all the time, I'd rather have your respect and your trust than your vote or your support. Um, I'm sure that there are people out here who used to support me who were very pro-casino, who are gonna be doubling down and funnel funneling lots of money to negative commercials against me this week, lying about me through the lieutenant governor's campaign. That's fine, that's politics. But at the end of the day, I made it abundantly clear that I have serious concerns about casinos in South Carolina because of I'm talking to law enforcement faith leaders in other states, and they have voiced concerns that they wish they could go back and roll back the clock on having in them their state.

SPEAKER_06 29:05

There you go.

SPEAKER_09 29:06

What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_06 29:07

Well, I uh you and I have the same feeling.

SPEAKER_09 29:09

It sounds like he did the research.

SPEAKER_06 29:11

Right. And you and I have the same feeling, just putting our personal spin on it, of casinos. Okay, you grew up in an area, had casinos, you talked to people who own casinos, trumping one of them.

SPEAKER_09 29:20

Mm-hmm. I grew up. I did ask him too. He said, Don't do it.

SPEAKER_06 29:23

And I grew up in an area where we had a lot of reservation casinos. I know it's different, but I can tell you the same thing happens. The area gets depressed, it gets dirty, it gets filled with crime, drug abuse, drunks, even the sex trafficking. Yes, the tribal leaders will tell you it's the biggest mistake we ever did. So, you know, the money's great, they all agree on that, but it's not so well, that's just it.

SPEAKER_09 29:47

Where's that money go?

SPEAKER_06 29:48

Well, supposedly in an Indian casino type situation, anybody who has claim to that heritage, like for example, Pottawatomy. If you can pr uh prove that you are a certain percentage of Pottawatomy Indian, you get a cut of that, and you get a check every month. But what that does is it for people who are 100% like Pottawatomy Indian, 100%, they get some of them get a pretty big check. What does that do? That's like welfare. You don't work, you just sit home and you do what? Drink, do drugs. That's what they found. These checks actually are not so good.

SPEAKER_09 30:25

You know, I'm thinking my kids' great grandma, she's a Cherokee.

SPEAKER_06 30:32

Well, if they have any casinos, she can stake a claim.

SPEAKER_09 30:36

That's interesting, right?

SPEAKER_06 30:38

Yeah. I mean, at least that's the way it is. And it was just it was a big topic of discussion for many years in Wisconsin because we had all those major Indian casinos, and then a lot of people, the pros and cons of it, you know, provides jobs for our community. Great, okay, wonderful. And then it provides all kinds of money. They get a cut of it. Because where do the profits from the casino? As you know, the house always wins, right? Right. So where do the profits go? Well, it gets divided up into our people. We send it back to our community, but then those people are sitting at home getting free checks, money, free money. And what does free money do? It takes your will, it takes away your ambition. Not for all people, but for many.

SPEAKER_09 31:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:16

And that was the complaint. I'm just telling you my experience and what was expressed to us being in the media in Wisconsin. I'm not saying it's that way everywhere.

SPEAKER_09 31:25

It truly manifests. That's yeah. Yeah, you can easily find lots of studies on the impact of casinos in certain areas. You can easily read those. And it often says that the areas that are immediately surrounding the casino become very depressed. And the jobs are not high-paying at all, so it may employ you, but it's they're not high-paying jobs.

SPEAKER_06 31:48

And not generally speaking, no.

SPEAKER_09 31:51

No. And um, you know, and so um what will be the economic? It's very easy to f figure this out because there's plenty of data out there. Like you're you're talking about, Nick. There's plenty of data on this.

SPEAKER_06 32:07

That's my point. It doesn't really do as much good as they want to convince us that it does for any community. Maybe it increases the amount of taxes paid to the local municipalities and the governments. But what does that actually mean? Oh, we get taxed property tax relief? No. Remember this the government never, ever takes back any taxes. Once they put a tax on you, they'll find another reason to extend it for something else.

SPEAKER_09 32:34

Well, we've seen that over and over again. Riding on a penny.

SPEAKER_06 32:38

Right, so I don't want to hear it. Mm-hmm. All right.

SPEAKER_09 32:41

All right, we're gonna take a break. We'll be back in a moment.

SPEAKER_05 32:45

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SPEAKER_05 34:03

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SPEAKER_09 34:15

Two more clips I want to play, and we're gonna play them in the next um half hour. All right. One of them is their their opening, their opening messages, and um it came out of the gate hot. Um and the second one is regarding universal school choice, something that's important to you, Nick.

SPEAKER_06 34:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 34:37

So um I very interesting commentary. Now, to me, it's hands down, Attorney General Alan Wilson won this debate. No doubt in my mind.

SPEAKER_06 34:49

Um social media and the s the political realm that I follow in in South Carolina all tend to agree. And again, on our text line, although we lost all the evident listeners, I think.

SPEAKER_09 35:01

Well, well.

SPEAKER_06 35:03

The ones who supported her that listen to the show, it seems like they're gone. Except for one. Except for one. Okay. He he came on and and he he thinks that uh she's still gonna be governor.

SPEAKER_09 35:13

But you know what? It's so funny. What's so funny about it all is like people have dug in so deep on this that they're actually taking it personally if you don't support their candidate. And like ninety eight percent of what each candidate's saying, you pretty much support.