TALK 94.5 Liz And Nick
TALK 94.5 Liz And Nick
BREITBART REPORT WITH ALANA MASTRANGELO 6/10/26
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And from the chapter of uh What You See is Not Actually What It Is We have Reporter Alana Mastrangelo. Good morning. Good morning. Thanks for having me on. Thank you for joining us. So the Southern Poverty Law Center is basically the hate map for, I guess, extremists to use or lefty civil rights type of thinkers to use as a reference to who what hate groups do I need to hate and which ones do I not support, you know, like who's who. And like for example, Turning Point USA was on their hate group list. But then we found out that allegedly that they were using donor funds to actually I guess pay informants that are quote unquote embedded in extremist groups and bought white hoods and all this other stuff to stoke uh the chaos and the controversy. So, Alana, can you give us a kind of a ramp up and explanation so we all understand what's happening here? I tried to do my best, but maybe you could do it better.
SPEAKER_01Sure. Well, just to give a little history um on what the Southern Poverty Law Center is, um, for those who may not be familiar with it, it did start out as a civil rights law firm in 1971, um, but it has since reinvented itself in the mid-80s as a political attack group going against conservatives. It did put um Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk on its it right now, it maintains a hate list, uh like of hateful, so-called hateful groups. Um, and it it put turning point USA and a bunch of other mainstream regular conservative organizations that the majority of Americans agree with, according to polling, on this uh list alongside groups like the KKK, Area Nation. Um and you know, in in May of 25, just months before Charlie was assassinated, uh, this is when they put Turning Point USA on the list, the hate group list, and Charlie did react to that by saying, you know, they'd love nothing to see, uh nothing more than to see turning point in the crosshairs, and called on people to take a good look on where all that money was really going. So now you fast forward to today. Under the Trump administration, the DOJ um has recently indicted uh just last week, the Southern Poverty Law Center, they said um used their donors' money to fund leaders and organizations of racist groups, including the KKK, Area Nations, and National Alliance. And um just recently, uh Congressman Jim Jordan was pointing out that they paid that the SPLC, the um Southern Poverty Law Center, also known as the FPLC, um, paid $270,000 to the guy who helped put together the infamous Charlottesville rally of 2017, where someone was killed. Um, helped, you know, paid him to coordinate transportation, to attend the rally. Um, and that over a number of years, the SPLC shelled out um a little bit over $4 million to these kinds of groups. And that in response to that, they and their revenue ended up nearly tripling after within a year after Charlottesville. So they they use they fund these these hate groups and they're behind these actual like real hate groups um and making money off of it.
SPEAKER_03But they say that they were they were embedding people in there to see how the operation is run to expose them. So sort of like an informant, you're like, hey, I need more money to uh, you know, buy my wood for the cross burnings and the KKK robes um because I want to see what they do with it. You know, like they're trying to say that. Um does that hold like what's the illegal part here is what I'm trying to say. What's the illegal part? Are you allowed to embed people in hate groups to see how they operate um uh uh using donor funds to do that?
SPEAKER_01Well, that one that is an ac accusation that came out in an indictment, but with the an illegal part that was mentioned um in a charge from the DOJ, there the FLC is accused of 11 counts of wire fraud, uh false statements to a federally insured bank and conspiracy to conceal money laundering. So there's more, I guess there's we have to you know wait and see how that plays out because this this indictment just came out um with that. But then in addition to that, are all of these other accusations of embedding these people? But just at a congressional hearing yesterday, um Congressman uh Jim Jordan asked the interim uh the interim uh president and CEO of the SPLC, you know, did you use did you use donor money to have field sources host extremist groups? Um did you use the money to grow, yeah, to recruit and grow existing groups or create new groups? And he didn't answer. He just when he did answer, he just said, you know, that he couldn't recall. So and just kept segueing back to well, you know, we'll see what happens with the indictment and everything. So it's just it's playing out right now. They're they're just being exposed now. Um that's the thing.
SPEAKER_03I mean, if I was sitting in that hearing and I was facing those indictments, federal indictments, I would say, you know, it because he wanted him to answer, Jim Jordan wanted him to answer those indictment questions while sitting there at the hearing. And why would he incriminate himself? It was just a kind of he's just like, well, let's see how it plays. I understand that those are the charges, but uh let's see how the indictment rolls out. Um he's not going to say no because then he'll be held for under perjury, I'm guessing he was under oath, right? Um so I mean we weren't gonna get anything out of this guy, whoever that guy was from the SPLC. But uh so but the but the main point here that we all have to think about that things are never what they seem to be. And when I was sitting there watching what was unfolding in Charlottesville on TV with this Unite the Right rally with um people in Tiki Torch, I was like, where are all these people coming from? Like all of a sudden we got the KKK alive and strong in Virginia? I said, what you know, is this real? Is the KKK like that's the damaging part is that people don't get those images out of their minds.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and we see those images even used today at you know by the mainstream press um as kind of the summary, you know, the the the trope of what the the big the boogeyman conservative is, and that's and it's kind of like you know, the Charlottesville thing was the left-wing fantasy of what conservatives are, what what what we see depicted in entertainment in TV. Yeah. So it's like they need to the SCLC needs to kind of create that, orchestrate it on their own, um, to have that play out because otherwise it's not playing out naturally.
SPEAKER_03So it is something that is and and it was like showing the public that the people defending statues were KKK people and not normal people. And that's damaging because Trump said, Hey, I understand there's good people on both sides of this issue. That people that say, I don't want a statue of this person because of of what that person stood for. And other people are saying, Yeah, but this is history. We can't erase history. And so he was saying that there are good people on both sides of that topic, not there were good people in the KKK or the SPLC. You know, it could have gone either way.
SPEAKER_01So Yeah, and they create they create moments like that so that they can, you know, when people have to respond to moments like that where they can take things out of context and they can spread an entire narrative as to what was said, and and then people, even though that quote from Trump uh from 2017 has been widely debunked since that he was not referring to the KKK, it's still something like once it ends up in someone's mind, or it it's just kind of becomes people just run with it. And even when you that's the damaging part is there these false allegations of what was said or things taken out of context will run rampant as a narrative across the nation among groups. And even if you debunk it, it's too late. It's it's already been embedded in people's minds. And that's the damaging part that they they orchestrate this to create those those moments and those those narratives.
SPEAKER_03But the the funny part of the whole thing is that the because of what the SPLC allegedly did, it was successful in recruiting and radicalizing people that would have otherwise not participated or thought about hey, there's uh a bunch of KKK people I can commensurate with. This is great. I identify with them. Um and so it actually really did, I think, uh kind of wake up. Like I never heard of Nick Fuentes. I never heard of him and these other names in this alt-right uh uh you know podcast world. And it really did give them all a platform. Um what was that other guy's name? Oh my gosh, I can't remember his name now. Very Duke. Duke's uh David Duke. Yeah, that guy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01It gave I haven't heard from that guy too much lately, though. Yeah, but it gave them a platform.
SPEAKER_03And then I'm like, yeah. Is this really do we really have a rise of KKK? What's happening here? And it was not real, but it did, I think, cause a legitimacy about them after they saw how organized they were. So they were successful in doing that, I think.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because if you make if you orchestrate something like that and you make it seem like that they are more like they're an actual group that is more active than they actually are, and organized, then people might get excited about that and they might yeah, they I mean the FTLC most likely is responsible, yeah, for recruiting members and making these groups more active than they actually were beforehand because that was a thing in 2017. I remember um people like David Duke and just that was a very that was more so at the forefront. And and meanwhile, the um the FTLC was reimbursing them for crossing rallies.
SPEAKER_03It's unbelievable.
SPEAKER_01And and and they're yeah, and they're running, they're at the end of the day, the organization is just there are a group of grifters, you know, they don't care about the KKK at the end of the day. They're just running a scam to take out their political opponents. Their goal is to make the KKK um appear more active than it is so that they can frighten people and then put regular everyday conservatives, mainstream conservative organizations like Turning Point USA, uh Prager U, Mobs for Liberty, you know, on the list alongside these groups that they're making appear as though the these actual hate groups are active and they're put lumping them all together to appear that they're actually the same when when they're not. And yeah, and Breitbart News has been has been a target as well of um of FPLC, you know, for you know, they constantly try to discredit our reporting by accusing us of being racist, sexist, you know, all that kind of stuff. And you know, I work at Breitbart News, and I'm a daughter of immigrants, and I can say firsthand that it's not a you know, extreme alt-right company as the SPLC has alleged. So it is all false. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00They need to keep that image up. They have to continue to create that division because if they don't, they don't have the fundraising.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So what it's all about money at the end of the day.
SPEAKER_03So what uh we're speaking with Alana Mastrangelo from Breitbart. Uh what happens next now? So this hearing happens, it's gonna go this nothing's gonna happen with this hearing. Okay. That's I mean, that's just my opinion. Yeah. Um what do you what happens next?
SPEAKER_01Um I you know, I'm not sure. I just see how it plays out. Um I'd like to see the you know the DOJ under the Trump administration continue to go after these dangerous groups that um that lump everyday conservatives into you know hate lists with other with actual uh bad entities. Um because you know, when people when when when they make people think that regular conservatives are equivalent to neo-Nazis, um this can galvanize people. You know, this can galvanize like a dangerous lunatic into picking up a gun and starting shooting. I mean, we've seen three assassination attempts, three documented assassination attempts on the president. Uh Charlie Kirk was assassinated last year. Um, you know, these people the the actual violence and the hate is coming from the left. And we need to, I would like to see moving forward, you know, the government kind of crack down on these radical left-wing groups and see what they're doing. And where it goes from here, I'm not sure, you know. Um, but we have to see.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. It's um that that here I watch parts of the hearing, but uh it just goes in circles and it really doesn't go anywhere, and no one's gonna admit anything under oath, and they're just like, just wait till it gets to trial.
SPEAKER_00So Well, the people that call Trump a Nazi for the last 10 years just elected Grand Plant, who's an actual Nazi.
SPEAKER_01So that's the most ironic part is this guy has a tattoo of a Nazi symbol and his Reddit post, his very colorful Reddit post constantly uh coming out. It just goes to tell these people actually don't care. The left does not actually care about any of these issues. It's just a political game. They only do what is convenient for them politically. They care when it's convenient, they don't care when it's convenient.
SPEAKER_03When I hear him when I hear him talk, Alana, and you know, listen, we're both women. When I hear him talk, I just get this really bad feeling. Like his whole persona, the way he talks, he's very caveman. Like, you know those caveman commercials from like, what was it, Geico or TikTok?
SPEAKER_00And he's getting offended. You're making fun of the caveman.
SPEAKER_03I mean, that's what he reminded me of. You know, when he's talking, it's the most unattractive. I don't know, maybe Maine's into that. I don't know. Maybe they're like that, you know, wilderness person. But it's so uh gross on so many levels. I don't understand how this person can get 70% of the vote of any of any group.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that is wild to me. It is also it's just it's very revealing as well.
SPEAKER_03Um, I saw a man on the street interview and someone said, you know, what do you think about him having a Nazi tattoo? She goes, Well, I'm okay with it. He covered it up. And then she said, Well, what if he had an Israeli tattoo, um Israeli flag tattoo? Oh no, that would be like no way, because they support genocide. I was like, what did the Nazis support? What did the Nazis support? Are you kidding me? Genocide is genocide, no? Oh my gosh. If I mean, like if you believe one, uh these this is the mentality of the people, so how do you argue with stupid? I mean, those people are just so lost, it seems yeah.
SPEAKER_01With that, I wouldn't even know how to argue with that. You know, there's actual genocidal maniacs with the Nazis are actual they committed an actual genocide. And if people are answering that way, I I don't know. I guess all we can do is just hence the 70% conservative movement. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy.
SPEAKER_03All right, Alana Mastrangelo, are you going to be on the fight club at all? Um, possibly.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Right now, just you know, you never know. Okay. Day by day.
SPEAKER_03Well, if you want to check out the um the exclusive content on Breitbart.com, click on the Fight Club tab and you'll learn more about uh what is involved in there. Lots of uh video podcasts and all that and and exclusive content. Thank you so much, Alana. Thank you. Thanks for having me.