CLEARING THE FOG with Lt. Col. Chris Ophardt 5/7/26

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SPEAKER_02 0:00

Clearing the fog with Lieutenant Colonel Christopher Heart's hidden military narrative. On the Liz Camillaway show with Nick Summer, talk 94.5.

SPEAKER_04 0:11

Alright, here we are.

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I thought Nick was doing like the uh Good Morning Vietnam, like just to start a yelling.

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It's probably more for me.

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You can tell the two of you were out last night. It was a good time. It was a lot of fun.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Well, thank you for coming. Yeah, it was great.

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Jenga champion. You beat my seven-year-old daughter.

SPEAKER_00 0:33

She gave me a run for my money. I know.

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I don't think she wants a rematch.

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I was channeling all of my uh engineering skills, which are very, very lacking.

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Your inner Jenga skills.

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All right, Lieutenant Colonel Chris Opart. Did a lot of people meet you for the first time?

SPEAKER_00 0:48

Yeah, I did. We met a couple people. Yeah, it was great. Had nice conversations, found other uh other vets, people whose fathers had served in Korea. So it was good.

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Very cool.

SPEAKER_00 0:59

It was fun.

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All right, so Chris Opart. Um I ran.

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Iran the big is it around the big elephant in the Iran. Iran. It was a while they told us we had to pronounce it a rock.

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Araq.

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Arah.

SPEAKER_04 1:13

Yeah, they told you, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:14

Yeah, oh yeah. They're like, you need to pronounce it this way. We're like, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:17

How do you say cutter?

SPEAKER_00 1:18

So it was like cutter, guitar. Yeah.

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Which one is it?

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I have a lot of guitars.

SPEAKER_00 1:23

Yeah, exactly.

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Which one is it?

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I just say the Middle Eastern Peninsula.

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I remember when a reporter corrected someone and said, it's Iran.

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I remember that.

SPEAKER_04 1:36

Yeah, I forgot who who they corrected.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

I I I want to say it was no, I think it was a soccer star or some sort of sports. Nick was watching David Beckham yesterday.

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I ran some far away. All right. So I was just mentioning um the things that Trump was saying yesterday, and um I l I have some um sound bites from that. Uh and and I don't know if you pulled anything, any updates, Nick, about Iran um and what Trump had to say. But um but uh the biggest thing is we've reset the negotiating table.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

That's what he did. Yeah. We're already ahead of where President Obama started at and gave him the keys to the car and said, Oh, you you're gonna follow us, right? So the biggest thing that's outlined is the US needs to not A, Iran will agree to anything and they will do what Middle Eastern businessmen have done for centuries, which is oh wait, it's not explicitly written here. So we're gonna do X, Y, and Z.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:50

And so there needs to be clear, definitive, like the language of the agreement will be the most important part of the peace settlement. Um when we saw that with President Obama's agreement. It was and people criticized it, and of course.

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They still battle it. They'll have a w a weapon in ten years. No, they won't. Yes, they will, no, they won't.

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And that was the thing, it was it was like they put language in there that then Iran just said, Oh, okay, yeah, this is not a nuclear site, this is a test facility for academics. And you're not allowed in here. So it's how do you get that language written down? And out of all of our presidents, he's had his teams do negotiations to where they've make sure that there are clear lines drawn in their contracts.

SPEAKER_04 3:34

So not only that, um their backs are against the wall at this point, it seems, not only militarily, but yeah, economically.

SPEAKER_00 3:41

So the economically.

SPEAKER_04 3:42

I think Nick, you have something about Bessent on that as well.

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Well, he's talking about uh help is on the way, basically.

SPEAKER_04 3:51

To the Iranian people?

SPEAKER_02 3:52

No, because us. I don't have the other thing.

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Okay. And the reason why I'm asking is because Senator Lindsey Graham and Trump were talking about arming the Iranian people now. Like now's the time to arm them. Do you know what that looks like? Because we tried to do that through the Kurds and the Kurds ran off with the weapons.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Well, yeah, and the Kurds got from Iraq. Screwed too many times by us to want to.

SPEAKER_01 4:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

Uh well, and I mean, so you have to understand the the political dynamics that come with the Kurds. So the Kurds are the largest minority group not to have their own country in the entire world. And everybody hates them. Turkey, Iraq, Iran, nobody likes them. No, could because they control some of the biggest oil, untapped oil wells in the region, and they don't want to have to deal with them. Um, so the problem is arming people's great, but Iran has clamped down and taken away everybody's weapons. So it's how do you get them into the country? I mean, you're essentially trying to start a smuggling operation. Um, and the easiest way would be through their northern country, which is um Russia. So, I mean, the problem is you got Russia to the north, Afghanistan to the east, which you're not getting anything through. Um, and then you've got Iraq, which we've kind of tried, but Iraq at the same time is has a large what's called Shia population, which is um a second Muslim that is what the um Iranians are. So it's one of those how there's no good way to get the weapons in there. So I mean it's a and this is comes to why we're so important with our Second Amendment rights back in the United States. Is yeah, I mean, they eventually since 79 clear cleared everything out.

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Um you know, another thing I want to bring up was they did it in Venezuela, they did it in Cuba.

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The number one way to start the the March. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_04 5:46

Yeah. And that's what's really happening in Europe.

SPEAKER_00 5:50

Yeah, and well, I mean Europe's always been that way. Yeah. Um since World War II. But it's uh but yeah, you have less control, you have less um ability to stand up um and and to go from there. Um and then when your politicians do stuff like unplug all your nuclear reactors, right when the surge for energy is gonna go through the roof, then you are your economy's collapsed. Like you saw you were talking about Germany yesterday. I mean, that's why Germany's economy is collapsing, is it doesn't have enough power, doesn't have enough energy to do anything because they closed all their nuclear reactors to for the green peace push.

SPEAKER_02 6:23

We talked about that with the London uh editor there yesterday, Kurt Zandilka from Breitbart. Yep. And he said, Oh yeah, that and there's many who regret it, but they won't say it publicly.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

No, I mean that's why they're in Ukraine. I mean, that's why Ukraine uh Russia invaded Ukraine was to close it off. And this is the same thing when you look at it, Trump has reset the Middle East on his policy, you know, with um UAE leaving OPEC, they're essentially gonna break up OPEC, they're changing the natural status quo. Um I had a friend I was golfing with the other day. He said, You cannot convince me that uh going into Iran was a good idea and that they were gonna nuke the United States someday. And I said, No, I can't, because September 10th, 2001, would I have been able to convince you that uh somebody was gonna hit the towers as we flew in?

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Right.

SPEAKER_00 7:10

I'm like, so it's infathomable to us that somebody would want to mur mass murder millions of people. Like we cannot comprehend it. And I don't know if this was the right decision or not, but he made it and it may cost the midterms to the Republican Party. Right. But we always say, what do we admire about Trump? He makes decisions because they're the right thing to do and the position of strength and the right thing to do, not because he may or may not, or people around him may or may not get re-elected to office.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

And what does that say about every previous president who has said the same thing but done nothing?

SPEAKER_00 7:42

But done nothing.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

At least he's done something exactly, and it may turn out well.

SPEAKER_00 7:45

Well, I mean it comes right back to your pointing in that direction. It comes back to your redistricting conversation you had before I got on the air. The reason why there's hesitation is is up they have to work harder, as you pointed out. It up it up uh you know, upends the status quo. And you know, I told my son, I said, Yeah, it'll be a 7-0 map at first. I said, But uh if Republicans keep acting the way Republicans are in South Carolina, it will not be a 7-0 map for long because you have to put up good candidates that relate to people that want to do it, that don't care about getting re-elected. And sometimes we don't have that in South Carolina.

SPEAKER_04 8:18

Yeah, because th right now in South Carolina, we keep hearing from the people in the know, too many lawyer legislators that are involved in cronyism, appointing judges, making policies, focusing on things that are not important to the masses.

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They have forgotten about we the people.

SPEAKER_04 8:37

Yeah, and they're just greasing their own palms and making their lives easier in their livelihoods, and they're not really focusing on us. Like Micah's law law just died again. That is ridiculous. After everything we've witnessed and everything that every woman, mostly women, have said about coercive control, it is unbelievable to me. But you know what, Margaret the lawyer said that it was really criminalizing intent and you shouldn't do that.

SPEAKER_00 9:08

You shouldn't. It's well, it's because it's really hard to prove.

SPEAKER_04 9:11

And so now they have to make it better. So maybe it was that reason and it wasn't really and you have too many lawyer legislators in there who are defense attorneys and they don't want this. No. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

Nothing to make it take away from my pocketbook.

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Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

I mean, it's just make it harder. Right.

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Make it harder to defend.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

So Yeah. But back to Iran, you know, going back big big picture. Um, I mean, gas prices keep coming down. I love how the New York Times is the only you know, all of a sudden cares about the price of gasoline. After all of the Biden years, they were like, no, we can't have who cares?

SPEAKER_02 9:47

We got Nimrods on the text line. Oh, how's your how's your little pain before the game going with you now? It's like, I'm sorry, Kamala lost. I'm sorry, you'll have another chance another day. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

I mean, and like I said, you were saying it yesterday or a couple days ago, I think, Nick, um, about once we get over this hump, once a deal is made, that things will start going back to normal by the time of the election. But I mean, affordability, and it comes from the defense department too. I mean, affordability is really just communist talking points, socialist talking points. I want the government to fix how much stuff costs. Right. And that's what affordability means.

SPEAKER_02 10:23

Right. These are the same clowns that said during that whole time that you just pointed out that, you know, look at how high gas is during Biden. Well, the president doesn't control gas prices. That's not on him. But now that it's going up a little bit, they're all pointing the finger at President Trump.

SPEAKER_00 10:37

But so in the difference between Biden and him was Biden purposely locked stuff down that then caused the supply chain to go.

SPEAKER_04 10:45

And then we had all the reserve go down.

SPEAKER_02 10:47

And then he was scary, which he did for political gain anyway, right before those midterms.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

And well that and then um, you know, he was purposely did not care about the price of gasoline and the you know, they were restricting dr drilling, um, putting all these environmental rules in, all these other things that so yes, he did actually cause the price to go up, just like Trump did by with Iran. But the only I didn't realize this. Most of the Iranian oil or from the Middle Eastern oil that comes to the United States goes to California. Ah everywhere else gets it from uh Texas or Venezuela or from the East Coast spot. So California actually is the only one that gets most Middle Eastern oil. They get almost it's like almost 90% of their oil comes from the Middle East because it's on the West Coast.

SPEAKER_02 11:35

And they're getting dangerously close to the max capacity. They're gonna have to shut down their you know, and when they do that, that's gonna damage equipment. And it's because they're they already have equipment that's aging anyway.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

So that's why it's it's a waiting game that they cannot afford to play. They continue to drag things out, and they think, oh, Trump's the weak one because he's extended it again. Yeah, really? Well, that's let's look at this in about three weeks.

SPEAKER_04 11:56

He's just buying giving rope. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:00

So the Iranians are convinced that the world will cave again. Right. That's what they they think. They have for the last 47 to 48 years. They have since 1979. They've caved.

SPEAKER_04 12:09

We're just waiting for the frogs in the boiling pot.

SPEAKER_02 12:14

But it's different this time because they have nothing left. That's all they have. And pretty soon they're gonna run out of space for it. The oil.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

Right. Oh, that means they already are. They're already slow in production.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

And you've got 162 empty oil tankers headed back here to the United States. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 12:29

Trump kind of said something yesterday. I really wanted to play it, but I I don't know if this is it. But basically he was saying that um that even if we did get that uranium that's missing, uh, that it's really probably not even good.

SPEAKER_00 12:45

Uh uh I mean uranium is uranium. But yes, uh so some of it is not even uh what they call capable of it's so dirty that it's not capable of being made pure into nuclear weapons.

SPEAKER_04 12:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:58

Still not stuff you want on the street.

SPEAKER_04 13:00

No, but he was saying like you know, that we we're gonna get that back somehow. We're gonna figure it out where it is. And I mean physically, how much room does that take?

SPEAKER_00 13:11

That's sm it's small amounts.

SPEAKER_04 13:12

Like it's not it's not they called it dust, then they say it's 900 pounds.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

It's unimpressive. Like it's like when you take out a million dollars in cash. Have you ever done this? If you take a million dollars of cash out, I know you have all the time. All the time. But if you take even like$100, right? And you put it all in ones and you're like, that's it, that's all it looks like. And when they do it in the movies, they show like this huge room, there's like a million dollars. When in actuality, like it's a couple stacks of it's the same thing. Like it's you feel like this uranium is in these massive rooms. That's really just like the size of your coffee cup.

SPEAKER_02 13:44

Is it true that they want to study it forensically to track it back to the whole thing with uranium one and that whole deal with Hillary, and that's why he wants it. He keeps saying we want it back, meaning it was once ours. He doesn't confuse words like that. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 14:00

Yeah, it may have been. Um, it most likely came from Russia. A vast majority of it came from Russia.

SPEAKER_02 14:09

Going back to Hillary when we can forensically tie it to that, then they've got another, at the very least, a talking point.

SPEAKER_00 14:17

Probably, yes, because we did do some deals with them to help with their um nuclear power plants that you know like to implode on themselves.

SPEAKER_04 14:27

So it'll be interesting. All right, we thank you so much, Army Lieutenant Colonel Chris O'Part. We appreciate your time in doing this. And where is your son Bailey today?

SPEAKER_00 14:39

He's sitting in the car today listening. He said, Hi, Bailey.

SPEAKER_04 14:42

Have a good day at school.

SPEAKER_02 14:44

He's not listening.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

He's probably got his heavy metal on. He's driving, he has his permit.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

Oh I'm gonna be very nice to him.

SPEAKER_00 14:52

I'm gonna buy him a Nissan Leaf electric car for his first one so he only can go so far.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

I think he can get a good Yugo on sale. I think so. He's still in the used car market.