THE CONWAY FORD TALK LLAMA LODGE ORANGE HEART MEDAL CEREMONY at Vet Cafe Hour (3) 4/24/26

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SPEAKER_05 0:00

All right. Welcome back to the Veterans Cafe and Museum on North Gate Drive. Come on down and have breakfast. Be part of our live studio audience for our talk llama lodge event.

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It's quickly becoming one of my favorite events. It is.

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It's the best. I told you that right now.

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I know.

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Uh Conway Ford Talk Llama Lodge is in session, and I might add, First Choice Plumbing Services providing breakfast for the first 50 veterans. What did I do with my phone here, Nikki? Let's see, is it going? I want to put this on Facebook Live now. So if you head on over to our talk 94.5 Facebook page, you can watch parts of this live and in person. And uh this is a gentleman that we've met before, Roddy. Uh Roddy has been part of the Orange Heart Metal Foundation for quite some time. You're also a photographer for the organization and a board member. So, Roddy, uh, you're also a Vietnam War veteran?

SPEAKER_00 0:58

I am.

SPEAKER_05 0:59

You are. So, why are you involved in the Orange Heart Metal Foundation?

SPEAKER_00 1:05

Because of what it means. Uh coming back from Vietnam doing three tours and to see how we were treated once we got back. And then also you have to look at uh why we were treated that way. We won't uh uh celebrate it because we trickled back, we didn't come back as a unit or anything. If somebody replaced you, then you came back. So that's one reason we won't uh we didn't have the parades and all that kind of stuff that everybody else was privileged to.

SPEAKER_05 1:36

Well that that uh is something that many Vietnam veterans carry. Oh yeah, and so when someone appreciates the plight of Vietnam War veterans when it comes to things like Agent Orange or getting assimilated back into society, I mean it's the whole thing comes full circle, I'm sure, at some point. But not everybody comes there to that at the same time. We just heard Ken Gamble's story and he had to walk this walk through alcoholism and come to the you know to to realize um there is support out there and that's why we do this because we want to connect people. And you're here every Wednesday with the organization?

SPEAKER_00 2:21

Yes, I am. I am the spokesperson for the group and for the state of South Carolina.

SPEAKER_05 2:26

All right, well, there you go.

SPEAKER_00 2:28

I am the I picked the torch up from Bobby Tiner.

SPEAKER_05 2:32

Yes, yeah. And we there is a memorial in here, is there not? Uh the Vietnam War Memorial. I think Scott Dilabon told me it's in that room there.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

Yes, we got we have a room there, a room there, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 2:48

Well, today you're gonna give us a presentation to Walter Aiken, who has served in Vietnam. And Walter, thank you so much um for being part of this. And Roddy, I'm gonna hand it off to you.

SPEAKER_00 3:02

Uh Mr. Walker Walter Aikens this morning. We want to welcome you home. Thank you and celebrating your service in Vietnam. We want to present you with this medal. Walter Aiken was in the Air Force, same as the same as I was. So uh you know how it is. Air Force, we changed uh a tent for a hotel room, and want to welcome you home and welcome you to the Liz Callaway morning show. And this is the medal. You're getting the picture. My lovely assistant over here, Miss Robin Spence. Thank you, sir.

SPEAKER_05 3:50

Thank you, Walter, and and Roddy, thank you so much. Um, you know, there's a reason why we do these ceremonies, and we learn so much about what has happened to Vietnam War veterans, but more importantly, the the concept of Agent Orange and how it impacts the lives of not only the veterans, but four generations down in males, five generations down in females. And Robin, um we were talking at length, and and you know, we'll have all of the segments of this show in in its entirety posted on our website and um Facebook page in about a day or so. But what is the most major, the major takeaway, Robin, that you believe uh is something that we need to know about being someone who was subjected to Agent Orange and how we need to make sure that this message gets out. You know, like the cause because we talked about how getting to the VA and starting that paper trail is the most important thing for getting help for not only you, but maybe your children and your grandchildren and their children down the road.

SPEAKER_04 5:11

Yeah, we we left off with, you know, the veteran is the foundation. We have to get the veteran into the VA and uh get them in the VA system. Once that is done, there is no, I need to say this, there is no official registry for children uh descendants of Vietnam veterans that were exposed to Agent Orange. However, there is an unofficial list being formed and somewhere down the road, we're going to have to um recognize that uh this is something that is going to last. We already know it laid dormant in Ken, like he said, for some forty, forty-five years before it started coming, you know, to light. And if you think about the the generational impact, you know, that's up to 120, 130 years later that things can still, you know, be rearing their heads. So they need to get the veteran into the VA system and then the family member can go back and say, Hey, I want to put my name on the list as a descendant of a Vietnam veteran. You know, you have uh ladies that can't have children and they don't know why. Well, and it's not just bad luck. It's it's because you know their reproductive systems were were affected because of their dad or their granddad's service in Vietnam. And but so that is very important. Uh we actually have a guest that's going to be coming up that is um a third generation um Vietnam exposure victim because of their granddad's service. And so it's an incredible story. We wanna we wanna make sure that we share we share that story as well. Yeah, but as far as the foundation is concerned, as Ken said, our Vietnam veterans when they came home, they didn't come home to the parades. They came home to being spit on, to being beaten, bottles thrown at them, just just not fired. Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 7:20

Exactly meeting someone and having a relationship, right? Because a lot of people I've heard these stories from all the veterans we've spoken to over the years that when when someone would find out that they served they didn't want anything to do with them.

SPEAKER_04 7:32

Right, that and so then that the choice that they made was just to um become reclusive and and just not talk about it at all. Right. But we need to let them know that that we're here, yeah, and and that they matter. What they did mattered and that the freedoms that we enjoy today are because those men went, they stood up for what was right, absolutely as have so many veterans you know that are still actively serving today. They're standing up for our freedom.

SPEAKER_05 8:02

Robin, thank you so much. We're going to take another break, and when we come back, Congressman Russell Fry is here. So uh we'll talk to him about it. Uh is there anything pending right now, legislation-wise, that you want to make sure we talk about?

SPEAKER_04 8:16

We have um up to this point, we have 20 states that have adopted legislation in their in each state's language to honor the Vietnam veteran as combat wounded and to honor the Orange Heart Medal. And yes, South Carolina is one of those states, we are happy to say. And we have Utah and Vermont going to the floor, so hopefully that's going to be our next two states that will come aboard. But we're not gonna stop until all 50 states we want we want federal recognition. And uh HR 4982 was presented by Congressman Jeff Van Drew out of New Jersey, and since 2021 it's been sitting dead in Senate Armed Services Committee. We need that bill, we need that bill up off the floor and bring it up.

SPEAKER_05 8:58

We can put it on Russell's uh Congressman Fry's uh radar. Maybe we can. Okay, maybe we can. All right, very good. Well, we'll be back in a moment with the Congressman and uh Robin, thank you so much. Thank you. Be back.

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SPEAKER_05 9:29

All right, here I am. It is 838 already. Nick, did you click on go live? Because we're live on Facebook right now. And we're and we're also live at the Talk, the Conway Ford Talk Llama Lodge, and we just need people to hear and hear, Nikki.

SPEAKER_02 9:49

And that would be all right.

SPEAKER_05 9:51

So welcome to our studio audience, to our live broadcast. You're on the air. I think we have a full house here. Um pretty much. It's pretty uh pretty amazing the energy. We always love being here at the Veterans Cafe and Museum on Northgate Drive, and you're all invited to come. Um, Breakfast for the First 50 Veterans is on the First Choice Plumbing Services Company. So we thank them for that. And it is the Conway Forward Talk Lama Lodge event that we do something warm and fuzzy for the community every single month, sometimes twice in a month. Um, and joining us right now is Congressman Russell Fry, our honorary Llama Lodge member.

SPEAKER_03 10:31

Woo! And um The Llama Lodge, I like it.

SPEAKER_05 10:35

Yeah, that's our Llama Lodge, doing warm and fuzzy, you know, instead of the L.

SPEAKER_02 10:38

It's not official until you wear something with a llama on it.

SPEAKER_05 10:41

Yeah, we have to give you an official line. I gotta get one, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:43

And then and there's llamas everywhere. You're very on brand today. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 10:48

So, Congressman Russell Fry, why um you know, I I know that you're obviously very busy and you have a family at home, but you always try and make it to one of these events when you're here, um, especially to be in this uh fabulous place with these amazing patrons of the Veterans Cafe and Museum. Why is it important for you to make it on out?

SPEAKER_03 11:07

Uh I just think you just get in touch. You know, look, the politics and politicians get smacked around, probably willingly like honestly, deservedly, because they don't they don't remain in contact with the voters that sent them to Washington or Columbia. So for me, it's always important to be. I mean, I'm just as busy, if not busier, in the district, and they'll tell you I think I think my staff in the district really enjoys when I go to Washington because they don't have to see me for a couple days, right? So it's kind of a reprieve for them. Yeah, but it's just good to be good to be out and about.

SPEAKER_05 11:37

What are some ways that your office can aid veterans that are in need of something or like can anything pop into recent memory?

SPEAKER_03 11:45

Yeah, I mean, so the veterans obviously have struggles and logistical concerns with the VA. Uh, so from a healthcare perspective, we help on that. From uh people sometimes lose their awards and recognitions and medals, uh, even for family members, and we help we help get those, even something as simple as uh uh obtaining medical records from years ago. We've had some tremendous success, great success stories with the veteran community. We've helped thousands of people in the district. So um, you know, we don't mind kicking over an anthill. We can't always say yes. I wish we could always say yes, but we don't mind kicking over an anthill and really trying to dig in. The guys that that serve in in our office are veterans themselves, so they have gone through this, they understand the plight of the the American veteran.

SPEAKER_05 12:33

And what is the best way to get through to your office? And and there's a certain person, right, to ask for?

SPEAKER_03 12:39

Yeah, uh Jason. Uh Jason Freer is the guy to ask for, but we're on uh on the web, obviously. You can hit me here uh at the Veterans Cafe today, swing by. Uh but but there's uh any number of ways. Facts, if you want to do that, carrier pigeon, we'll help you. Come into the office. We're in serfside in Florence, so um physically come into the office, but we're always willing to help.

SPEAKER_05 13:00

All right. Uh now I wanted to put on your radar because we were speaking to Robin Spence about HR 4982 from 2021, the federal recognition of the Orange Heart Medal. Uh of course, our state has already recognized it along with 19 other states, but they wanted to get a little federal, well, a lot of federal recogn recognition. But she said it's stalled in the um arms committee.

SPEAKER_03 13:26

Arms services committee. Yeah, I'll check. So I looked at the build upper, that was uh Congressman Jeff Van Drew, great, great American, uh, great Republican. Uh so I'm gonna get with him and figure out what the status of that is and where where where that is and how we can move it forward.

SPEAKER_05 13:40

All right, very good. All right, so I have to ask you, I have to talk a little politics.

SPEAKER_03 13:45

All right, let's do it.

SPEAKER_05 13:46

All right, first of all, we have a primary coming up, June 9th. Why is this so important? Because uh we have a a governor's uh race going on, and I know people say we're solid red, but sometimes it gets a little scary.

SPEAKER_03 13:59

Doesn't feel like that sometimes, huh?

SPEAKER_05 14:00

No, it doesn't.

SPEAKER_03 14:01

Um, look, the primaries are important. I think the primaries set you up for the general election, and I think we need to recognize something too. Our country's at stake, our state is at stake. We have to get out and get engaged uh and and find the candidate that can best represent the state, who can carry the mantle, who can deliver conservative wins uh in South Carolina and and certainly beyond. We need to set ourselves up and we need to get activated. It's time to it's time to recognize if you looked at what James Carville said the other day, he said if Democrats win the white win back the White House and take control of the Senate and the House on the federal side, we need to immediately make Puerto Rico a state, DC a state, pack the courts. Let's just it was a giant power grab. And I think that's a sobering moment for anybody who's a conservative that we can't sit this one out. Yeah. Uh and when it comes to primaries, you know, it's like a it's like a Thanksgiving dinner, little squabble sometimes. Yeah. Um, but then we coalesce afterwards and we get ready for November.

SPEAKER_05 15:01

I think we have a very interesting crop of primary Republican candidates. Oh, yeah. It's very hard for um some of us to make a choice.

SPEAKER_02 15:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:12

And what do you think we should keep top of mind when trying to figure out which candidate is best?

SPEAKER_03 15:20

I I look at candidates like this. Uh it's it's not what they say all the time, it's it's certainly how they say it. And then the capability of delivering on the things that they that they're passionate about, right? Uh because I think I think background certainly matters, but anybody can be a successful in public service. That uh you see that all the time. But what are they saying? What's their message? Does that strike a chord with you? And then how able are they to deliver on that? Uh if you look at uh say attorney general or governor or whatever, who can who can string together a coalition of enough people uh that can impact and move the needle to advance the state? Look, we've had trip some tremendous success in South Carolina over the last you know 10, 20 years. Who's gonna continue to deliver on that? Um and who is gonna be a not not not just a conservative, uh, but a conservative that can deliver on the things that they're talking about?

SPEAKER_05 16:15

Yeah. And one of the things that um well I'm I'm wondering is, you know, there was a uh a recent survey that was going out that that's which are these which are your top six things that you think are most important about South Carolina or what we need to work on. Do you have any anything top of mind that you want to really drive home? I mean, we've heard the lieutenant governor talk about energy, we've heard um, you know, other candidates talking about um doging South Carolina or lor lawyer legislators, which used to be in the State House and in judicial reform, tort reform. So, what do you think are the biggest issues facing South Carolinians and that we should be thinking about more as we head to the polls?

SPEAKER_03 17:04

I think taxation um begins, uh I think it starts with taxation, right? Where how are we taxed? How are individuals taxed? How are families taxed in the environment? What can you do to you know alter that, lower it, make it more affordable for the for South Carolina? I think that's huge. I think infrastructure is big, right? We're a growing state, we're one of the fastest growing states in the country. Uh so how are we how are we uh how what is the plan on uh accelerating or dealing with an infrastructure system that is a little bit behind the times? I think I think government modern modernization is key, right? Efficiency, you talk about doging. Look, we have AI now, we have so many tools at our at our disposal. Uh in South Carolina, I love it. I served in the General Assembly and they've done a lot of uh, I would say great reforms over the years, but there's still a lot to do, right? Uh we don't need this kind of archaic government bureaucrat type of uh mentality. We can be smart about things, save the taxpayers money, and be more efficient. So I think uh those are uh some highlights, if you will. Uh certainly energy. Uh energy's big. Energy is a key to the it's a key to the West and its success, generally in the West. Uh it's also a key to the middle class, right? You're not getting ahead if you can't afford the lights, the light bill in your in your house. Uh so how are we making energy more affordable? What's the plan? It can't just be talking points either. Energy is incredibly complex. We uh but as a country, and just certainly as a state, we have to deliver more generation of energy. And we don't do that in this country right now effectively. Uh we're we're allowing China to uh supersede us, and they're putting up a coal plant every day, they're putting up a nuclear facility every month. The last nuclear facility that we had was Vogel in 20, I guess it was 2020 or so in in Georgia. We need more. We need more of that, uh, and we need to get out of our own way. We have the capability and the capacity to do it. So for for me, uh and I'm I'm like you, I'm an undecided voter for the governor.

SPEAKER_05 19:03

Yeah, I was going to ask you because I wasn't gonna ask you who, yeah, but I was wondering if you had a clear picture of who you want to take.

SPEAKER_03 19:10

And I don't. And I'm I've I've been watching a little bit of the debates. Of course, I had my forum in Florence a couple weeks ago.

SPEAKER_05 19:16

You were so boring. You aren't boring. But the candidates were boring. Like I didn't feel fire.

SPEAKER_03 19:21

Well, and we need we got you know, you gotta get passionate. People love that. Like when I'm when I'm running, they they want to see a little bit of a little bit of moxie, right? They want to see the fight.

SPEAKER_05 19:29

We want to see passion. Yeah. You have a lot of passion, though.

SPEAKER_03 19:32

Yeah, I've always felt well. It's infused today by Celsius.

SPEAKER_05 19:36

But we need people who are exuding passion for the position they're trying to get.

SPEAKER_03 19:41

That's right. That's right. And so we got some debates, we got some time. Uh, we're still like we're literally in the middle of the primary, and so I know. Uh for for me, I'm I'm looking at who can deliver these wins.

SPEAKER_05 19:51

Okay. Um me too.

SPEAKER_02 19:53

Have you thought about implementing some sort of fire in there? Like you have 10 seconds to answer this question, or or yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:00

I want to see, like, you know, you ever seen the uh the shows like is it Jim Kramer? Is that his name? Jim Kramer on CNBC? He's like, buy Coca-Cola today. Like, I want to see. He doesn't want like a Howard Dean moment. Like, I don't want that moment.

SPEAKER_05 20:15

No, no, no, howling. No howling on the mic.

SPEAKER_03 20:18

Yeah, no one wants a Howard Dean moment.

SPEAKER_05 20:20

Nobody wants a Howard Dean. All right, uh, real quick, before we run out of time, what is the something I know this whole act blue um you know uh donation funnel and the uh Southern Poverty Law Center, we just have a few minutes here. I know this is like really ruffled your feathers.

SPEAKER_03 20:40

Oh my gosh, Liz. I mean, think about this. So the Southern Poverty Law Center um funded uh Nazi groups three million bucks over ten years. In fact, it goes back even farther than 10, it goes back 30 or 40. Wow. But they would fund these groups, then they would create a media narrative. We all remember the Unite the Right rally, if you will, in Charlottesville, where they had the tiki torches, right? Where they uh in Charlottesville, Virginia, and all the national rage that came out of that. So they funded this, then they get a nice sexy headline, and then they send out a fundraising email, right? And they rake in millions and millions of dollars. They are man they were manufacturing their own existence. Because without racism, right, without like Nazis living in your community, they're not getting any money. It's so crazy. I can't. And so this is the most de look, I see a lot of depraved behavior in Washington and in other places. This is one of the most depraved things that I've seen in a very long time. That they you you are making. Now it all makes sense.

SPEAKER_05 21:43

Right. Now it all makes sense because we didn't know where all of that was hiding. And I was like, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_03 21:50

And Act Blue's the same thing too, by the way. I mean, because they they had the the Mueller investigations, they had all this stuff. Yeah. Trump Russia, he's a Russian asset, he's being funded by the Russians. Meanwhile, they are lowering the thresholds and how to donate to Democrat and progressive candidates. They all they had 146 questions that they all took the fifth on.

SPEAKER_02 22:11

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 22:11

They pled the fifth. There is so much here to this Act Blue thing, and we I I think that we have to do that.

SPEAKER_02 22:24

Congressman Fry, I have to ask you. Patriot Front, you know, those lunatics with the khakis that look like FBI agents? Yeah. Could that have been funded by the uh Southern Poverty?

SPEAKER_03 22:32

Well it could be. I mean, the the current indictment, I think it's like a 13-page indictment, but it was several groups out there that they were coming in and funding. And so I saw this commentary on I think it was on Twitter yesterday, and this guy had donated to the Southern Poverty Law Center, right? And he said, I was literally funding the neo-Nazi that they were concerned about. That has to be illegal. And they paid this guy like a million bucks. And so he he just was like so disenchanted with the whole thing. But this is the ridiculousness of the progressive left right now. That they they are willing to do and say anything to create a narrative that that these these people live amongst us, that everyone is racist, and that we're we are the only entity to shut them down, just send us$25 a month. That is depress- that's wicked. That is absolutely wicked that you're willing to stoop that low. Uh and so they were indicted, I think, uh uh somewhere in Alabama or Mississippi. And so we'll see what happens with it. But I'm glad that there's a little bit of accountability and a little bit of sunlight on the activities of the progressive.

SPEAKER_02 23:33

Now, speaking of, things are heating up seemingly on Elon Omar. Oh, yeah. Very illegal financial stuff, and now you've got people in her 30 million to how much? Just under 100,000 or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 23:44

Like 96,000, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:45

Including individuals, politicians in her own state saying, no, this marriage fraud thing, this immigration thing is real. Yeah. And if that's the case, that is denaturalization territory. Yeah. I'm not asking you to come on that comment on that, but is it really truly heating up from your side?

SPEAKER_03 24:00

I think so. I mean, uh, I mean, Ilhan Omar, the the the steps from the Capitol back to wherever her office is, I mean, she's tailed almost every day. And so you're starting to see that we had Eric Swalwell, he's gone, right? He's awfully quiet lately. Uh we had uh Shiffius McCormick. Um Florida. Think about this, guys. Uh five million bucks of FEMA money that's supposed to go to disaster relief. She's in Florida too, by the way, like a hurricane state. They get hit by hurricanes all the time. She sets up this whole money laundering scheme. In her congressional portrait, she's got this big yellow diamond on her finger. Wow. That was a hundred and twenty thousand dollar ring.

SPEAKER_05 24:40

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 24:41

Like, this is like brazen frog.

SPEAKER_05 24:43

So she was using like a uh some kind of company, she has some kind of healthcare company or something like that.

SPEAKER_03 24:48

Yeah, it was a sh it was a shell game. So she would it was it was to further one, she wired some of this stuff into her congressional campaign, right? So she came to Congress and won in a contested primary on the backs of the taxpayers of the United States, literally, like that she created straw men to donate to her campaign with illegally gotten funds that she got from the Treasury and FEMA, and then she has the audacity to go and buy a$120,000 ring. This is insane. So she's been indicted, right? Uh she was gonna be expelled this week. Once the ethics committee came out with their report, and it took a while, and people wonder why did it take so long? If she is stonewalling you at every point, they have to issue subpoenas and they have to bring people in to build the case. Uh it took a minute to get there, but there was a little bit of justice on Capitol Hill this week when she resigned.

SPEAKER_02 25:38

I'm not saying I ripped off the government, but there could be signs ring.

SPEAKER_03 25:43

Right.

SPEAKER_05 25:44

That's the that's the attitude of the city.

SPEAKER_03 25:46

I grew up poor, right? And uh I represent a relatively poor district, but I got this giant yellow diamond,$120,000 ring.

SPEAKER_02 25:53

She put all the thought in to create all this stuff to get the money, but then she didn't put the thought into, you know, hey, I got a ring.

SPEAKER_05 25:58

Maybe I should be a little more low-key and then do the radar.

SPEAKER_02 26:01

Anyway.

SPEAKER_03 26:06

Uh fry.house.gov is our website. We got our phone uh numbers on there. We've got uh portal that you can opine and and shoot messages in. Uh we're we're always happy to assist you in anything you got going on.

SPEAKER_05 26:19

All right. Well, once again, I know many people appreciate you coming here and taking time for us. So thank you so much, Congressman Russell Fry. Now you're not on the ballot in June.

SPEAKER_03 26:30

Not on the ballot in June.

SPEAKER_05 26:31

You don't have a primary challenger, but you will be on the ballot in November.

SPEAKER_03 26:34

Yep, it's between uh me and uh somebody to the left of uh Chairman Mao Sei Tung of the Communist Party. So wow. Boy, this is gonna be a tough one for me here in November.

SPEAKER_05 26:48

All right, well, thank you so much, Congressman Fry. We're gonna take a break with our Fridays with Fry. We'll see you back in the next hour. All right. So if you want to come and join us, uh we're at the Veterans Cafe and Museum on Northgate Drive. And you know what, Nick? Um, this is always like a return home, like a homecoming for us.

SPEAKER_02 27:09

It is. It is honestly, like I said earlier, it's one of my favorite. I mean, we got Robin, we have the great stories uh from the folks that tell us. I mean, the just to go back a little bit, Ken Gamble, who started this whole Orange Heart Foundation. And the story he told, I'm not gonna repeat it about that woman. Uh, you know, and they had to go get it. Oh my gosh. Okay, I'm telling you, this is why they don't talk about it. Yes. Those are the kinds of things like that. My father said, I couldn't even hear it. Never this is why they don't talk about those things. Yeah. They internalize it. And they have problems. And look at this guy. And I was so proud to hear that he woke up. The fear of losing his wife said, You know what? None of this is worth it. Booze, cigarettes out the window, never looked back. Safe does marriage.

SPEAKER_05 27:49

62 years they married. Isn't that incredible? It is incredible.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

That was a great story.

SPEAKER_05 27:52

It's amazing. Um, I would like to talk to her about her perspective. Yeah. Because you would. Because think about it, 17 years. I know. She held it all together.

SPEAKER_02 28:03

I know.

SPEAKER_05 28:03

And kept her family together.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

She is also a hero.

SPEAKER_05 28:06

She is. And that is sometimes overlooked when people go into the service, it's the people at home that are keeping the home intact. And then when the veteran returns home, how to integrate everything back together is a huge job. The unsung heroes.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

Yeah, the you know, the wife or in some cases the husband, you know, depending who's deployed.

SPEAKER_05 28:30

Right, the spectrum.

SPEAKER_02 28:30

Right, they're keeping everything together at home. I I've I've seen it, you know, a little bit, a little bit in my family, but I was pretty young. But obviously, you know, later in life you got friends that go through it, and it's really amazing. And it's it's a thankless job, and they don't they're not standing on the hill going, look at me, look at me, I'm keeping the family together. They're quietly doing everything. And then you get somebody who comes home and he's damaged, like Ken. Admit it, he's damaged. Yeah, and he makes the situation worse. Now he was missing before, now he's there, but still missing. Yeah in the bottom of a bear a bottle somewhere.

SPEAKER_05 29:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

And and he came out of it, and she held it together. That that was one of my favorite stories that I've heard in a long time.

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We're gonna hear an amazing story that might become your new favorite story. We're gonna meet a uh an amazing young man named Ryan Turner, and he's known as Bubba to many, and we're gonna meet his mom, Katie Turner. Now, uh Ryan, also known as Bubba, is a grand is the grandson of Bobby Tiner, who we met four years ago, that started us being involved in this and doing this on an annual basis. This is our fourth uh Orange Heart Metal Foundation show. That's right. So um coming up in the nine o'clock hour, we're going to introduce you to Ryan and his mom, Katie. And uh they have an amazing story about survival and the impacts of Agent Orange because we talked about how it reaches down four generations in men, five generations in women who were exposed to Agent Orange. So you can follow along on our Facebook page. We're gonna go live for that interview, or and or you can go to our talkradio mb.com website if you need to take us for streaming. We'll be back in a moment.